The Wikimedia Foundation site says the following: The Wikimedia Foundation
is proud <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Values> to be one of the most
transparent non-profit organizations in the world.

But the decission to remove administrator rights is made internaly, thats
not transparent? On the WMF site people now 3? days later get a message on
the talkpage. That messages says two things that are a bit conflicting:

1: We've been talking internally for a while about making the governance
structure of this wiki more clear, i.e
2: I apologize, though, for the hasty implementation of this decision!

Next to that only 50% of the people where the rights are removed did get
that message today.

As last Philippe removed all the rights and is after that pointing to other
people to explain. That is just stupid, if you do something you should be
able to respond to questions. Cause Phillipe pressed the button.. It would
be strange and I'm sure it would be not OK if Tim Starling decided to pull
the plug from all all the servers and then says "you want reasons? Ask
Brion... Ow wait, he is on holiday now".

But now I am still wondering about the following: Where does the foundation
wants to go? Cause volunteers are removed from the blog, removed from the
Foundation wiki. If I read correctly its not ok from the WMF side to have
volunteers to help with the Toolserver as sysadmin? What will be the next
step? Remove all administrators from the projects and let it only be
handled by staff? Volunteers are the reasons we have staff. Without
volunteers there will be no Wikipedia / media / versity etc and they will
all be out jobs. So why are removing all the volunteer functions?

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM, James Alexander <jameso...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> > Lets get a few things in perspective:
> > 1. How many community members were abusive/unreasonable/whatever beyond
> > what might be considered a startle reaction to an apparent attack without
> > warning?
> > 2 How many people constitute this community
> > Divide answer 1 by answer 2
> >
> > Consider how much of the response was a snowball effect of frustration
> due
> > to a distinct shortage of explanation and direct answers to what might be
> > considered reasonable questions.
> >
> > And yes, "Welcome to Wikipedia "
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> 2 is an unreasonable number to divide by when it's such a small cross
> section of the actual community on these lists.
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Met vriendelijke groet,

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