Thomas, She is on holiday, she will not be in the office today?
Huib On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Thomas Goldammer <tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just a general note, could you please all wait for Gayle to get back to her > office? ^^ I think she wanted to address some of the things discussed here > on Monday, which is by San Francisco time. So maybe let it rest for a few > hours now? :) > > Th. > p.s. sorry about the empty email, my mouse is broken and clicks randomly. > > > 2013/5/13 Thomas Goldammer <tho...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > 2013/5/13 Keegan Peterzell <keegan.w...@gmail.com> > > > >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:03 AM, James Alexander <jameso...@gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Peter Southwood < > >> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Lets get a few things in perspective: > >> > > 1. How many community members were abusive/unreasonable/whatever > >> beyond > >> > > what might be considered a startle reaction to an apparent attack > >> without > >> > > warning? > >> > > 2 How many people constitute this community > >> > > Divide answer 1 by answer 2 > >> > > > >> > > Consider how much of the response was a snowball effect of > frustration > >> > due > >> > > to a distinct shortage of explanation and direct answers to what > >> might be > >> > > considered reasonable questions. > >> > > > >> > > And yes, "Welcome to Wikipedia " > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Peter > >> > > > >> > > >> > 2 is an unreasonable number to divide by when it's such a small cross > >> > section of the actual community on these lists. > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list > >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > >> > > >> > >> That's a bit relative, James. The active folk on this mailing list make > >> for a pretty good cross section of thoughts/feelings/opinions of the > >> movement. I've refrained from this discussion and will continue to do > so > >> on specifics, because it's politics and that's not something I do on > >> Wikipedia/Wikimedia. > >> > >> Things have been said in this discussion that I agree with, things have > >> been said that I do not agree with. All in all, my opinion is not > needed > >> because it has been expressed by others, and I do not feel compelled to > >> say > >> my side. This is where we speak and we listen, and it is disheartening > to > >> read that you feel embarrassed to be from the community when you have to > >> explain "drama" to them. > >> > >> These threads bring out the best and the worst in Wikimedians, for > >> certain, > >> but it's all out of cause of passion. We're here because we care, no > >> matter the pattern or the tone of conversations. This is a global > >> audience, intelligent, collaborative, and willing to learn. The > Wikimedia > >> Foundation is global, intelligent, and I assume good faith about > >> collaboration and willingness to learn. Gayle's email reflects her > >> opinion > >> on getting this concept and working with it in the future, and I'm happy > >> with that. > >> > >> All in all, I guess I just agree with Phoebe. > >> > >> -- > >> ~Keegan > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list > >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Met vriendelijke groet, Huib Laurens _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l