I take the asshole back. Sorry for that... Again, if I feel attacked I will attack back.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net>wrote: > All other things aside, misspelling the person's name and then calling them > an "asshole" is hardly likely to lead to an amicable solution, peace, love, > or understanding, is it? > > > On 13 May 2013 21:09, Huib Laurens <sterke...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Tillman, > > > > For the record, the time between your e-mail and my request why the > rights > > where removed is FOUR days. So yes. I stay by my claim I had to find > > information myself. And showing the mails its visible that Jay didn't > know > > about the fact you removed me either. So NO you didn't leave me a note > when > > you did it. I get your note four days later. > > > > Other volunteers also said they where removed, and I will not post that > > kind of e-mails online. But on the other mailing threat there you can > read > > it yourself also. > > > > When I was placed on the Wikimedia Blog I was already blocked by the > Dutch > > Wikipedia, That was no problem for Jay, Erik or the other people I worked > > with? When I was blocked on the dutch Wikipedia I was also a moderator on > > Commons, Meta, Incubator and a Member of the LangCOM and the LiCOM. > > > > So now your saying: You where / are blocked so you can't be trusted? I > > guess that makes you a complete asshole. Since the blocks and NL.wiki and > > lots of other wiki's are made of complete bullshit. > > > > > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Tilman Bayer <tba...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Huib, > > > > > > thanks for correcting your earlier claim in the main thread that you > > > were never notified about this kind of thing (although unfortunately > > > this correction comes only after your claim already contributed to > > > leaving MZ "a little speechless" and feeling "more and more ... > > > distanced from" Wikimedia). > > > > > > I can confirm that this is the text of an email I sent you on November > > > 16, 2011 when removing you from what was originally the blog comment > > > moderators list - with one crucial difference however: > > > > > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Huib Laurens <sterke...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Huib, > > > > > > > > we are currently reorganizing the internal communication about the > > > > Foundation's blog, and in the process have just removed your > > > subscription. > > > > The list is going to see more confidential information in the future, > > and > > > > we want to focus membership more on people who need to know it. > > > > > > Curiously, here you left out one sentence from my 2011 email: > > > > > > "And while I don't want to pass judgment over your work on the > > > projects, the fact that you are currently blocked on Meta etc. makes > > > it difficult to justify keeping your access at the moment." > > > > > > > > > > I want to > > > > emphasize that this has nothing to do with your conduct as list > member, > > > and > > > > that your interest in and support for the WMF blog (e.g. tweeting new > > > > posts) is appreciated. You can still send messages to the list, they > > will > > > > just need to go through moderation. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tilman Bayer > > > > Movement Communications > > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > IRC (Freenode): HaeB > > > > > > > > > > > > Strange that the blog is "internal" communications. > > > > > > You mean that > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-blog > > > is not a public mailing list? It is my understanding that it was > > > originally created solely as a channel of notifications about new blog > > > comments that needed to be moderated; these obviously should not be > > > public. Later there were efforts to make it more into a venue of > > > internal coordination about the blog, although these did not quite pan > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > Even stranger is that Erik asked to create my account, he was > completly > > > ok > > > > with it. So I'm not sure what the information on the blog is so > secret > > > that > > > > no volunteers can see it... > > > > > > Actually, you were the only volunteer removed at that point in 2011 - > > > there were at least four volunteers who I think are still on the list. > > > As indicated in the part of my email that you chose to quietly > > > suppress, a main reason to handle your case differently was that you > > > were at that time indefinitely blocked by the community on more than > > > one wiki (to cite the block log entry from nlwiki: "Abusing multiple > > > accounts: general project disruption and cross-wiki disruption; trying > > > to evade bans on other projects, running unapproved bots and so on. > > > block per RfC and cu evidence." ) > > > > > > The fact that you are now trying to make your case by posting tampered > > > emails reinforces my confidence that it was the right decision to > > > remove you from this position of trust. > > > > > > -- > > > Tilman Bayer > > > Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > IRC (Freenode): HaeB > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > > > Huib Laurens > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Met vriendelijke groet, Huib Laurens _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l