right; wrong thread. But yes,beta is good,as with the virtual editor.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David Goodman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Basically, you (in the plural) thought you could do better than the > > consensus, and therefore simply without rejecting it , did not implement > it > > while you tried other things first. All these trials would have been > > good, ''had they been done before implementation.'' I am waiting for > > someone from the foundation to come out and agree to that, a recognition > > that the error was that they needed to be done first. > > Hi David, > > I'm a little bit lost as to what you're referring to here, is this > about the decision to not reinstate the orange notifications bar after > the Echo rollout? If so, I already clarified [1] that I felt that we > didn't do a good job recognizing the likely impact of this change > earlier and addressing it more systematically upfront. We've since > implemented a compromise, and work is continuing to iterate on this > and other aspects of the new notifications system. > > In general, for features rollouts (and if we want to talk more about > this, we should really split the thread), my recommendation is to > adopt a beta->production mode switch similar to the mobile site, which > will give us a generalized way to test new features with users who are > willing to do so, while not committing us to provide an opt-out > preference or mode switch for every new feature (which, while an easy > way to appease upset users, is also a recipe for technical debt). Had > Echo been available in beta on en.wp for a while before being > activated, I think the rollout could have been a lot smoother. > > All best, > Erik > > [1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notifications&diff=prev&oldid=553547662 > > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
