Hoi, Fred, what is different in your scenario from what happens in the USA ?
Thanks, GerardM On 3 September 2013 00:23, Fred Bauder <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: > > On 31/08/13 15:17, Erik Moeller wrote: > >> It could be argued > >> that it’s time to draw a line in the sand - if you’re prohibiting > >> the > >> use of encryption, you’re effectively not part of the web. You’re > >> subverting basic web technologies. > > > > China is not prohibiting encryption. They're prohibiting specific > > instances of encryption which facilitate circumvention of censorship. > > > >> So, what to do? My main suggestion is to organize a broad request for > >> comments and input on possible paths forward. > > > > OK, well there's one fairly obvious solution which hasn't been > > proposed or discussed. It would allow the end-to-end encryption and > > would allow us to stay as popular in China as we are now. > > > > We could open a data centre in China, send frontend requests from > > clients in China to that data centre, and comply with local censorship > > and surveillance as required to continue such operation. > > > > It would be kind of like the cooperation we give to the US government > > at the moment, except specific to readers in China instead of imposed > > on everyone in the world. > > > > It would allow WMF to monitor censorship and surveillance by being in > > the request loop. It would give WMF greater influence over local > > policy, because our staff would be in direct contact with their staff. > > We would be able to deliver clear error messages in place of censored > > content, instead of a connection reset. > > > > -- Tim Starling > > Their orders would be classified; disclosure of them would be a crime. > Not a problem for us, but a big problem for staff on the ground in China. > > Fred > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>