Mediawiki is indeed the most versatile platform, but that just means it's okay at most things. It doesn't mean it's better than other platforms explicitly designed for a particular job ;-)
I'd prefer self-hosting on general principle, but if our operations people say it's better and more stable hosted elsewhere - and presumably they have - then fair enough. Andrew. On 5 September 2013 18:29, Theo10011 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>wrote: > >> This was definitely mentioned at Wikimania. What I understood is that it >> will be hosted externally for performance and reliability reasons, but that >> the rest should remain the same. >> > > So, A blog for one of the top 10 websites in the world is being hosted > externally "for performance and reliability"? - That doesn't sound right. > Maybe Mr. Roth & friends can clarify a bit here. > > Blogs generally don't require a lot of resources, aside from some comment > oversight. But it's not like there is a deluge of comments or moderation > required in the current blog - they average about 1, maybe 2 comments and > from my impression, don't particularly have a high number of regular > followers. > > This seems like something trivial, perhaps because of familiarity with > Wordpress, it is being preferred in this case. But then, why are we > willingly and so easily handing the visitors to a third party? especially > with so much paranoia about monitoring and privacy issues. Even for the > sake of our own impression and opinions - Is there a particular role there > that Mediawiki can't fill in? (I recall Erik once argued that wiki is the > most versatile platform, does he believe that Wordpress is a better > alternative? ) > > Regards > Theo > > >> >> Anyway, I'm not an expert here, just what I understood from Matthew Roth & >> friends >> >> Lodewijk >> >> >> 2013/9/5 Richard Symonds <[email protected]> >> >> > This is being discussed on-wiki too, at >> > >> > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy#Blog_not_hosted_by_WordPress.3F >> > . >> > >> > Richard Symonds >> > Wikimedia UK >> > 0207 065 0992 >> > >> > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >> > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >> > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A >> 4LT. >> > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >> > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >> > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >> > >> > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >> > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >> > >> > >> > On 5 September 2013 14:00, Neil Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > On 05/09/13 13:37, MZMcBride wrote: >> > > >> > >> Hi. >> > >> >> > >> The recent draft privacy policy mentions that the Wikimedia blog >> > >> (<https://blog.wikimedia.org>) will soon be hosted by WordPress.com. >> > >> >> > >> Was this discussed anywhere? If so, where? >> > >> >> > >> What is the proposed URL structure of a blog hosted by WordPress.com? >> I >> > >> think there's a reasonable expectation that when a user visits >> > >> *.wikimedia.org, we don't simply send his or her browser info to a >> > third >> > >> party without his or her consent. This has come up previously with >> > Jobvite >> > >> and iframes. It's also come up with the use of tracking tools such as >> > >> Google Analytics, which not only affect one-time visitors, but aim to >> > >> persist client-side. >> > >> >> > >> How will the blog be backed up? Relying on an external service means >> not >> > >> being in control of the data. Will there be regular backups made to >> > ensure >> > >> that if WordPress.com goes away, we won't lose all of our posts? >> > >> >> > >> MZMcBride >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > I agree: this does seem to be a curious decision, at odds with the >> WMF's >> > > general policy of self-hosting as much as possible in order to maintain >> > > maximum independence from outside entities, particularly in the context >> > of >> > > the recent concerns about privacy. 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