Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type "blog", what you think?
Rupert Am 05.09.2013 19:34 schrieb "Bence Damokos" <[email protected]>: > > As I understand the blog is currently a self-hosted instance of Wordpress > and the idea is to move the hosting to somewhere else. > (So this is not MediaWiki vs. Wordpress, but self-hosting vs. not > self-hosting) > > Best regards, > Bence > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Theo10011 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > This was definitely mentioned at Wikimania. What I understood is that it > > > will be hosted externally for performance and reliability reasons, but > > that > > > the rest should remain the same. > > > > > > > So, A blog for one of the top 10 websites in the world is being hosted > > externally "for performance and reliability"? - That doesn't sound right. > > Maybe Mr. Roth & friends can clarify a bit here. > > > > Blogs generally don't require a lot of resources, aside from some comment > > oversight. But it's not like there is a deluge of comments or moderation > > required in the current blog - they average about 1, maybe 2 comments and > > from my impression, don't particularly have a high number of regular > > followers. > > > > This seems like something trivial, perhaps because of familiarity with > > Wordpress, it is being preferred in this case. But then, why are we > > willingly and so easily handing the visitors to a third party? especially > > with so much paranoia about monitoring and privacy issues. Even for the > > sake of our own impression and opinions - Is there a particular role there > > that Mediawiki can't fill in? (I recall Erik once argued that wiki is the > > most versatile platform, does he believe that Wordpress is a better > > alternative? ) > > > > Regards > > Theo > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'm not an expert here, just what I understood from Matthew Roth > > & > > > friends > > > > > > Lodewijk > > > > > > > > > 2013/9/5 Richard Symonds <[email protected]> > > > > > > > This is being discussed on-wiki too, at > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy#Blog_not_hosted_by_WordPress.3F > > > > . > > > > > > > > Richard Symonds > > > > Wikimedia UK > > > > 0207 065 0992 > > > > > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England > > and > > > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. > > Registered > > > > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A > > > 4LT. > > > > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > > > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation > > (who > > > > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > > > > > > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal > > control > > > > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 September 2013 14:00, Neil Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 05/09/13 13:37, MZMcBride wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Hi. > > > > >> > > > > >> The recent draft privacy policy mentions that the Wikimedia blog > > > > >> (<https://blog.wikimedia.org>) will soon be hosted by > > WordPress.com. > > > > >> > > > > >> Was this discussed anywhere? If so, where? > > > > >> > > > > >> What is the proposed URL structure of a blog hosted by > > WordPress.com? > > > I > > > > >> think there's a reasonable expectation that when a user visits > > > > >> *.wikimedia.org, we don't simply send his or her browser info to a > > > > third > > > > >> party without his or her consent. This has come up previously with > > > > Jobvite > > > > >> and iframes. It's also come up with the use of tracking tools such > > as > > > > >> Google Analytics, which not only affect one-time visitors, but aim > > to > > > > >> persist client-side. > > > > >> > > > > >> How will the blog be backed up? Relying on an external service means > > > not > > > > >> being in control of the data. Will there be regular backups made to > > > > ensure > > > > >> that if WordPress.com goes away, we won't lose all of our posts? > > > > >> > > > > >> MZMcBride > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I agree: this does seem to be a curious decision, at odds with the > > > WMF's > > > > > general policy of self-hosting as much as possible in order to > > maintain > > > > > maximum independence from outside entities, particularly in the > > context > > > > of > > > > > the recent concerns about privacy. 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