Marc On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Marc A. Pelletier <m...@uberbox.org> wrote: > > > I have *zero* to do with Governance, no stake in that project, and I > don't even actually interact with any of the involved departments. I > can tell you with absolute certainty that my comments on this thread > would have been exactly the same 18 months ago.
This is a pretty big statement to make, so I thought it would be a good idea to engage in a little research to see if your comment stands up to scrutiny. I like research.[1] We can see from your stats of postings to the mailing list[2], that 18 months ago you weren't active; you only really became active after you landed yourself a job with the WMF.[3] So I went back just a little further -- only by a few months, and I found this comment[4] from you to (at the time) Board member, Phoebe Ayers[5]: <beginquote> "I think that the first thing that should be learned -- and indeed that should have been learned /before/ this farce -- is that begging the question in a "referendum" is fundamentally dishonest. I was oh so very pleased to learn that I get to give my opinion on insignificant implementation details of a "feature" that stands in opposition to everything Wikipedia stands for which is going to be committed against us whether we like it or not." <endquote> > It is *much* easier to get the stakeholders to collaborate when they > don't have to go on the defensive. Really, Marc? Really?[4] What is entirely ironic, and quite sad actually, is that we can all remember your diva rage quit of the English Wikipedia Arbcom in 2013[6], in which you accused the committee of being politicised. I call your attention to this statement by you: "What I mean by 'politicized' was that decisions are not being argued around 'what is best for the project' but 'what will make [the committee] look good'. Add to that stonewalling, filibustering, and downright 'bullying' from those who aren't getting their way - to the point of having arbitrators being ... creative ... with ethics in order to get the upper hand". I see no difference between what you accused the en.wp Arbcom of doing, and the way that you are bullying and needlessly attacking community members who are presenting relevant information and asking relevant questions. To other list members, I am sorry that the above has had to be said on-list, but the way that Fae has been treated and attacked by numerous members of this list in this very thread is a disgrace, and I for one have had a gutful of it. Russavia [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-March/070665.html [2] http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Marc_A._Pelletier.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coren/disclosure [4] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-August/067518.html [5] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Former_Board_of_Trustees_members#Phoebe_Ayers [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-03-18/News_and_notes _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
