I'm not sure that people think the conference is unnecessary; I think it has value. It is, however, the only one of all those listed for which almost everyone is explicitly excluded and cannot attend - even though I can think of several who have strong interest in movement governance and strategy. It's a heavily publicly discussed meeting to which 99.9998% of Wikimedians are unwelcome - and yes, that's the way it comes across.
The movement has failed if the only way to participate in group discussions on movement governance is to (1) create a chapter or thorg, (2) become an executive or employee of one and (3) be granted authority to attend this conference. Those are very big hoops to jump through in order for non-aligned Wikimedians and movement participants/supporters to participate in the discussion. Risker/anne On 2 April 2014 14:32, Cornelius Kibelka <jckibe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, finally the discussion we need! Pity that it happens only one week > before the conference itself. > > My point of view: > We have different types of conference: GLAMCamp, EduWiki, Wikimania, > whatever. > > Beside Wikimania, which is quite a "fruit salad" of topics and themes and > seen as *the* gathering of the global Wikimedia community, all of thoses > confereces have quite a special, limited scope. I see the Wikimedia > Conference as the highly political, meta level conference. This is the only > meeting in the year where we can discuss governance, strategy, movement > politics issues only, excluding all the programmatic work. As it is the > only meeting of this type during the year, at least a part of the programme > team tried to keep all the sessions in this meta scope. We felt a need for > those topics, which can't be discussed at those other meetings. > > Obviously, it doesn't seem to be so clear for many people. Maybe the > majority even thinks that we don't even need that type of conference. Who > knows.., all discussion adressing this issue fizzled out in the last three > past. > > However, please think about this! It's important. At the conference we'll > have a special session about this, the session is called actually "Future > of the Wikimedia Conference". We need input from everyone to see how we > should continue and what should happen next year. > > Best > Cornelius > > ---- > Cornelius Kibelka > > Twitter: @jaancornelius > Mobile:+351-91-9860232 (Vodafone PT) > German number currently offline > > > > > On 2 April 2014 19:16, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am genuinely puzzled as to why, if nobody on the WMUK board (such as > > > the CEO or the current Chairman) is sure what the purpose of the > > > conference is, they should chose to invest the donor's money in > > > sending 5 trustees and 3 full time employees to it (presumably the > > > employees are being paid for their time rather than going as > > > volunteers). > > > > > > > > Just to be clear, I know what the benefits we will get out of it are, > and I > > can tell you the direction that I would like the conference to take in > > future; I'm just wondering whether others have the same perception. > > > > This is not a new question, as Nathan has pointed out, and he is probably > > right to say it is best to continue it here; > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference > > > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
