Ive been watching this conversation and I have to agree with Will here. These calls for banning/restriction of access to the list and admission that Wikipedia is full of "landmines" is troubling. If we have such grave problems, we should be confronting them. If Will is just stirring the pot, ignore him and it will go away.
> From: w...@wllm.com > Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 16:10:49 -0700 > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note. > > If this list chooses to block me for any amount of time, it might as > well be forever. I'm responding to other people's mails here; I'd > prefer to mail less as well. > > In any case, you'll be blocking someone for asking relevant questions > and replying to relevant concerns. I think that is pretty > self-evident. If I do get blocked on this list, I will be taking my > discussion to Wikipediocracy where I have never been so much as > encouraged to be quiet beyond the matter I mentioned before, and > anyone who is interested in it is welcome to join me there. > > This is getting *really* scary. Think about what you do in full sight > of the entire community before you act, please. > > ,Wil > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... I wish I kept more up to date on this set of threads and had stepped in > > to say something sooner. I'm going to go ahead and say that I agree with > > Pete that at this juncture the most beneficial course of action would > > probably be for Wil to back this set of discussions for at least a few > > days, if necessary even by putting Wil on temporary moderation as bizarre > > as that sounds. Wil: I'm going to type a private email after I send this > > to you, and I promise the last thing I desire is to shut you up - you're > > just currently running through a minefield with no map, and it would be > > much better if you had a map before continuing. > > ---- > > Kevin Gorman > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Wil Sinclair <w...@wllm.com> wrote: > > > >> You *can't* be serious. Now I'm *really* starting to get the idea that > >> you guys just want to shut me up. And you're using the fact that I'm > >> actually being very open about something to justify it. This is > >> extremely worrying if everyone else on this list agrees with you. > >> > >> ,Wil > >> > >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > l: > >> > > >> > I don't know the first thing about the alleged safety concerns discussed > >> on > >> > IRC, but the following quote is troubling to me: > >> > > >> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Wil Sinclair <w...@wllm.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> She replied "a WMF employee emailed me that there are safety > >> >> concerns, > >> > > >> > > >> > It seems that Wil has chosen to repeat something that was said privately, > >> > about personal safety, in a public forum. It seems likely to me that this > >> > kind of choice would tend to *increase* potential danger, not decrease > >> it. > >> > > >> > I'd like to suggest that Wil's access to this email list be blocked, at > >> > least as a temporary measure. I think his behavior here has been reckless > >> > in a number of ways. This is no judgment on him as a person, but I do > >> think > >> > we need to protect this list from further flooding. > >> > > >> > I don't know much about the precedents for list access removal, but I > >> > suspect that consensus among active Wikimedians would be pretty strong at > >> > this point. Can anybody comment on what would be necessary to make this > >> > happen? > >> > > >> > Pete > >> > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
