Sounds like your suggestion would be a perfect contribution to some kind of community discussion to try and decide a framework to decide if or when we might want to re-deploy visual editor, much like Pine was suggesting in the first place :-)
*Edward Saperia* Chief Coordinator Wikimania London <http://www.wikimanialondon.org> On 3 June 2014 16:37, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3 June 2014 09:05, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 3 June 2014 03:02, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Because VE has repeatedly been mentioned in this list as something that > >> is improving and may help us with acquisition of editors and their > >> knowledge, I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on > English > >> Wikipedia. > >> > >> I am not proposing any specific outcome in the RfC. My goal is to set up > >> a framework which the community can use to decide which of several > paths we > >> would like to take. > > Okay, further to what I've said above....I think that before having an RFC, > we should seek community assistance to carry out a small-scale study so > that there is some evidence on which people can base their decisions. This > is what I would suggest. > > - Create a "sample article" that includes an infobox, an image or two, > some references, a template or two, and at least three editable > sections. > Editors will be asked to copy/paste this page into a personal sandbox to > carry out the experiment, so that their individual results can be > observed > through the page history, and problems can be more easily identified. > - Identify about 15-20 *basic* editing tasks that an inexperienced > editor would be likely to try. Some that come to mind: > - Remove a word > - Add a word > - change spelling of a word > - add a link to another article > - remove a link to another article > - move a sentence within a section > - move a sentence across sections > - add a [new] reference (multiple tests for website, newspaper, book > references) > - edit an existing reference > - re-use an existing reference > - edit existing information in the infobox > - add a reference to the infobox > - add a new parameter to the infobox > - add an image > - remove an image > - add an image description > - modify an image description > - add a commonly used template (such as {{fact}}) > - remove a template > - add several symbols and accented characters that are not available > on their standard keyboard (e.g., Euro and GBP symbols for US > keyboards, > accented characters commonly used in German or French) > - Ask the "testers" to complete a chart outlining their results for each > of the editing tasks being tested, and any comments they have about > each of > these editing features. > > If we can persuade even 25 people to work through these basic tasks, and > the results are aggregated well, the community will have some useful data > on which to base next-steps decisions. It will also provide the > VisualEditor team with comparatively unbiased information about their > progress. The key emphasis in the experiment is that it should focus on > straightforward, elementary editing activities rather than complex tasks, > and the purpose is to see whether or not these features work in an expected > way or not. > > Thoughts? > > Risker/Anne _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
