On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > No, I have not recapped the whole situation. What I think is appropriate is > that we find a way to bring the situation to a calm conclusion of some > kind. I think the ED has far more options at her disposal than anybody > else, as well as a fair amount of responsibility for it happening in the > first place, but to date hasn't done anything about it. I think it's > appropriate to voice concerns about a situation that appears to be having a > strong impact on the existing social structure of Wikipedia. > > Finger-wagging about minor gossip is a distraction from the important > dynamics. > > -Pete > _________________________________ > You brought this nasty, hurtful gossip to a much larger stage. Wikimedia-L is a global list with many subscribers, including Wikimedia employees, Lila and Wil themselves, journalists and interested observers. Whether the rumors and deeply inappropriate commentary existed elsewhere is irrelevant to the fact that you made it much more widely known. You seem unable to understand how this kind of thing can effect real, living people with feelings. You also seem oblivious to the sexist nature of the gossip itself. Whatever you think of Wil and Lila and Wil's role so far (and, honestly, what you think is well known since you posted your insulting comments about Lila to this list), nothing justifies exacerbating the situation by republishing hateful gossip. You seem to think the core issue, whatever it is now (Wil's effect on Lila's reputation? On her effectiveness in her job? On the reputation of WMF in general?), deserves more discussion on this list. Yet you offer no evidence of this, or even reasoning in support of it. The gossip jabs are incidental, and seem calibrated to generate just the sort of drama you claim to disdain. Feel free to try again - start a new thread, explain what you think the actual problem is, limit yourself to discussion of that problem, and we'll see what happens. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
