Well thank you Brion, at least that may explains why things are imposed to
the editors community and that also explains the high rejection rate from
the editors community of the new big features such as VE. For once take
time, think about editors workflow.

For exemple on french wikipedia we used to have a direct link to Wikimedia
Commons (we technically removed the description page proxy), now we have
totally lost this feature. So yes you may think it's not important, but as
an administrator on Wikimedia Commons it screws my workflow when I see an
obvious copyvio on the French Wikipedia.

So yes you make software for your users, but I think you're underestimating
part of your users that you should not.


2014-07-10 18:36 GMT+02:00 Isarra Yos <[email protected]>:

> On 10/07/14 15:53, Brion Vibber wrote:
>
>> Perhaps it's time to stop calling self-selected surveys of a tiny subset
>> of
>> our user base "community consensus".
>>
>> The vast majority of our user base never logs in, never edits, and never
>> even hears about these RfC pages. Those are the people we're making an
>> encyclopedia for.
>>
>> -- brion
>>
>
> And those who do log in, edit, and comment on RfCs generally do so with
> the understanding, on some level, that everything they do, that the entire
> encyclopedia, is for the readers, because without an audience there would
> be nothing. They know their audience, they interact directly with this
> audience on the talkpages and in email, and indeed they often use the site
> exactly as this audience would, simply taking things a step further to edit
> as well.
>
> So when they speak for the users who never log in, never edit, and never
> comment, do not discount them. No more than you discount yourself when you
> try to speak for the users who never log in, never edit, and never comment.
>
> -I
>
>
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