Keep in mind also that power users like you have access to power tools:
preferences, user scripts, gadgets, and API client applications exist
EXACTLY so that you guys can completely customize the entire user
experience for your specialized workflows.

-- brion


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Pierre-Selim <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Well thank you Brion, at least that may explains why things are imposed to
> the editors community and that also explains the high rejection rate from
> the editors community of the new big features such as VE. For once take
> time, think about editors workflow.
>
> For exemple on french wikipedia we used to have a direct link to Wikimedia
> Commons (we technically removed the description page proxy), now we have
> totally lost this feature. So yes you may think it's not important, but as
> an administrator on Wikimedia Commons it screws my workflow when I see an
> obvious copyvio on the French Wikipedia.
>
> So yes you make software for your users, but I think you're underestimating
> part of your users that you should not.
>
>
> 2014-07-10 18:36 GMT+02:00 Isarra Yos <[email protected]>:
>
> > On 10/07/14 15:53, Brion Vibber wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps it's time to stop calling self-selected surveys of a tiny subset
> >> of
> >> our user base "community consensus".
> >>
> >> The vast majority of our user base never logs in, never edits, and never
> >> even hears about these RfC pages. Those are the people we're making an
> >> encyclopedia for.
> >>
> >> -- brion
> >>
> >
> > And those who do log in, edit, and comment on RfCs generally do so with
> > the understanding, on some level, that everything they do, that the
> entire
> > encyclopedia, is for the readers, because without an audience there would
> > be nothing. They know their audience, they interact directly with this
> > audience on the talkpages and in email, and indeed they often use the
> site
> > exactly as this audience would, simply taking things a step further to
> edit
> > as well.
> >
> > So when they speak for the users who never log in, never edit, and never
> > comment, do not discount them. No more than you discount yourself when
> you
> > try to speak for the users who never log in, never edit, and never
> comment.
> >
> > -I
> >
> >
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