On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Like many other "old hands", it seems to get in the way of my workflow.
> Not
> >> an issue for me, as long as I can turn it off.
>
> hehe, i suppose investing a million $$ to get you turning it off because
> it is
> in your way is probably not the goal :)
>

Well, for a million $$ MediaViewer would be slightly overpriced ;-)



>
> >> It's probably fine for "modern" viewing, although it's hard to guess
> that
> >> you get to the file page via the little Commons icon for people who (in
> all
> >> likelihood) have never seen that icon, or visited Commons.
>
> > Indeed, the icon to the File: page is currently very opaque. We're
> > preparing for a round of possible changes to the viewing experience,
> > potentially including
> > - moving caption above the fold so readers don't have to hunt for it
> > - moving disable action above-the-fold
> > - potentially eliminating the below-the-fold panel entirely
> > - emphasizing the File: page more prominently as the canonical source
> > of metadata
> > - separating out download/use actions more clearly
> >
> > These changes will need to be carefully tested/validated. If you want
> > to take a look at an early early (!) prototype (!!), see
> > http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo , but please
>
> magnus, do these changes make you turn it on again? if not, what would need
> to be better?
>

I think this is a non-issue. It took one click to get to the image page;
now it takes two. That's my main "problem" with it.
As I said, I'm not the target audience for this. I hope.


>
> i think there is two kinds of feedback. (1) technical / feature / workflow
> issues. like "i cannot tag easy", "esc leaves mediaviewer instead of
> fullscreen", "browser zoom (ctrl-/+) does not work". "X takes one click
> more now". i d love this to be taken into account.
>
> while i find design issues more difficult. the whole user experience
> needs, at least imo, consistency. tinkering here and there
> may quite heavily break that. better would be to encourage
> getting alternative full designs. if this would include how to
> clean the commons page ... but that might be too much :)
>
> rupert
>
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