Nitpick: If watchlist and notifications remain separated, it makes more
sense to me to call the operation that adds something to watchlist "watch"
rather than ''subscribe".
בתאריך 17 בספט 2014 12:05, "Diego Moya" <dialm...@gmail.com> כתב:

> On 16 September 2014 21:32, Danny Horn <dh...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Diego, that is definitely what we're thinking about for the subscriptions
> > options -- giving users the ability to choose whether they want to
> > subscribe to every new thread, or just get a notification that a new
> thread
> > has been created.
>
> Danny, that is definitely *not* what I'm thinking about, :-(  and
> there are nuances that are not getting through the conversation noise
> - or at least I've been so far unable to explain myself as to what
> those nuances are.
>
> Can you at least acknowledge that you understand the difference
> between "subscription" (with respect to items appearing at the
> Watchlist) and "notifications" (with respect to Echo)? I haven't seen
> that difference tackled in any of the communications from the
> development team, although several editors have recognized it as
> significant.
>
>
> >The balance that we have to figure out is how to provide
> > options on that page-by-page level without forcing people to go through
> two
> > clicks every time.
>
> I'd go with the route of allowing users to select the default value
> for both subscriptions and notifications (with new users subscribed
> and notified of all conversations they post to, and experienced
> editors with lots of pages changing the default to "don't subscribe").
> The current subscription check can be set up that way (in
> Preferences->Watchlist->Advanced options), and it works very well.
>
> If those options were available, I would configure mine to "subscribe
> to all topics" and "don't notify me about any topic" as the default.
>
>
>
> > We'll probably be tackling the subscription/notifications question in
> more
> > detail in a few weeks. Right now, we're working on Hide, the Table of
> > Contents, Search and the LiquidThreads transition. There's a lot to do!
> But
> > we'll definitely be getting back to notification options before too long.
> >
>
> That's great, there's a time for tackling each problem in a long term
> project. When the time comes, I hope you gather a sample of desired
> workflows and needs (including mine), *before* you start analyzing
> possible designs that solve them. ;-)
>
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