Quick and easy: don't bother with the Dutch Wikipedia. It is one of the more toxic environments on the internet. :)
On 28 November 2014 at 14:47, Russavia <russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is with some degree of sadness that I have to bring this to > wikimedia-l, but it's something that has to be done I am afraid > > In December 2011, I dealt with an OTRS complaint by an individual > relating to a photograph of her which was being used in her articles > on Wikipedia. She was not happy with the image. > > Inline with the WMF Resolution dealing with images of living > people,[1] I followed: Treat any person who has a complaint about > images of themselves hosted on our projects with patience, kindness, > and respect, and encourage others to do the same. > > The image[2] was removed from the article and replaced with another > suitable image. The subject also provided another image via OTRS.[3] > > Fast forward to November 2014, and on Dutch Wikipedia an editor known > as "EvilFreD" performed what is known as BTNI reverts over numerous of > my edits going back several years. It's one of the most pathetic > policies on any project, which basically says that with no thought on > how poor an image is, it should never be replaced without two months > of mindless discussion.[4] > > EvilFreD has left a message on my talk page and I responded to him > informing him of the complaint about this image.[5] After my revert > noting BLP, another admin, MoiraMoira has left a message on my talk > page.[6] Given the timeframe (2 minutes) it is possible she didn't see > it, so I asked her to please look at the above note to EvilFreD. Her > response: "Hello, I'm very clear here: this is the Dutch wikipedia. > And there is no space to troll or challenge other people. If you > continue this behaviour, a timeout will follow. You should know > better. ~~~~" > > My removal, because Moira refused to do so, is met with one of the > most pathetic, trollish comments I have seen;[7] an insistence that I > speak in Dutch, not English. MoiraMoira then immediately protects the > article. > > Is this treating people who complaints about themselves with kindness > and respect? Or is there something else going on on Dutch Wikipedia > that I don't care to know about? It's not the first time I have met > such resistance for the removal of problematic images on Dutch > Wikipedia, as was demonstrated here.[8][9] > > Given the trollish nature of comments directed towards myself, and the > threats of blocks by MoiraMoira if I dare to challenge them on this > issue, would someone who has the patience to deal with such behaviour > please intervene and deal with this issue. Be mindful, you will need > to speak Dutch, and will also be willing to divulge private > information from OTRS in order to satisfy the people on this project. > > Also, please note, that in discussion with the subject she was fine in > having the image kept on Commons, but didn't want it used in her > article in the infobox. I think this is the least we can do for > article subjects on our projects. > > Regards > > Russavia > > [1] > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Images_of_identifiable_people > [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Justine_bateman_7-10-2007.jpg > [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Justine_Bateman_NYC.jpg > [4] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BTNI > [5] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Russavia#BTNI > [6] > https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Russavia#Bewerkingsoorlog > [7] > https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Justine_Bateman&diff=42577573&oldid=42577394 > [8] > https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Russavia#Image_on_Prostitutie_in_Thailand > [9] > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:9.000919_Pattaya_streetscene5.jpg > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
