Jane Darnell wrote: >No, tagging is different. GerardM blogged about this with the example of >"horse". You can "tag" a photo as being of a horse by putting it in the >horse category, but in no time it will be filed under some subcategory of >horse. There are relatively few images in the top "horse" category.
This is one of the most baffling parts of Commons to me. Why is it a problem to have images of horses in Category:Horse? You seem to be describing a social problem ("it will be filed under some subcategory [by a person]"), not a technical problem. If people are vandalizing files by removing useful categories, we should tell them to stop immediately. >Moreover, most pictures of horses are not even in the horse category tree, >but are categorized under some GLAM donation category and have never been >sorted into any other category. This doesn't make any sense to me either. There's no real limit to the number of categories that a file can have. Why not have both Category:Horse and Category:Donated_by_some_institution? What's the technical issue here? >The concept of categorizing is also based on existing categories, and the >process of creating categories, though not difficult, is not easily >available to newbies. It's already fairly simple to add a category to a page (the category description page doesn't need to exist for a category to have members), but we need to make it simpler and more fun, as I said. >Tagging allows the user complete freedom in associating concepts with >images. Ideas around tagging on Commons have been rejected as putting an >extra burden on anti-vandal fighters, in addition to being possibly >useless in the goal of "making search on Commons suck less" Useless? Tagging is a major part of search. I have no idea what you're talking about here. My understanding is that GerardM believes that we'll put tags into Wikidata instead of on Commons. I don't think any reasonable person seriously questions the utility or virtue of tagging. I think many reasonable look at the current classification system on Commons and genuinely do find it completely useless and incredibly frustrating. MZMcBride _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>