Hello Jimmy, Thank you for the note. I was wondering about the eligibility of James, because the page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/James_Heilman_removal_FAQ#Can_James_be_a_candidate_for_a_community-selected_seat_again.3F says: "Due to the removal from the Board, James is not eligible to be a candidate for the Board until the 2017 community selection process. Under the Bylaws, the Board oversees the rules and procedures for the community-selection process. If the Board determines that a candidate does not meet eligibility criteria, it may decline to appoint the candidate to the Board."
Before 2017, James could be appointed to the board by the sitting board members. Is he eligible for such an appointment? According to the 2015 board selection page, a candidate for the community seats - and I assume that the rules for other seats are comparable - has to meet some criteria, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/Board_elections/2015 "Prerequisites to candidacy". If James was eligible in spring 2015, I guess that he is also eligible at the moment. But why does the FAQ say that James is not eligible "now" because of the removal? The "prerequisites" say: "You must not have been removed from a position at a non-profit organization or other company because of mismanagement or misconduct" So would this be a reason for not appointing James to the board, or call him not eligible for the 2017 elections? Was James removed from the WMF Board for "mismanagement or misconduct"? Kind regards Ziko 2016-02-29 15:03 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>: > Nathan, as pretty much always, is correct. > > Everybody is tired of this mystery. > > I'm not blaming anybody - it's part of the unfortunate atmosphere of > unnecessary secrecy, which plagued us for way too long. That's what creates > the accusations and the wild rumors in all sides. We all have to fix it in > ourselves. > > Simply telling everybody's stories fully and openly is the only right thing > now. > בתאריך 29 בפבר׳ 2016 15:53, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> כתב: > >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@wikia-inc.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > One of the things that someone asked me privately to discuss is what I >> > think of the possibility of James running for the board again. >> > >> > First, I have no opinion about whether or not he will be eligible at the >> > next election. That's a matter for people other than me to decide. I >> > don't know. >> > >> > Second, if he is eligible, and if he runs, and if he wins, then I will >> > support his joining the board. Because I've been willing to be vocal >> > about what I view as his failures, people have sometimes gotten the >> > mistaken impression that this is primarily a personal conflict between >> > him and me. That's not true. Before the board vote to remove him, I >> > told him that I would vote with the majority - because it is my feeling >> > that on matters of trust, if he was unable to command the trust of at >> > least the majority of other trustees, his position would be untenable. >> > >> > Third, it may interest you all to know that I did not and would not have >> > instigated the meeting in which he was removed from the board. Indeed, >> > I missed an online board meeting where things happened apparently that >> > brought this to a head, and in the final meeting with James, I mainly >> > inquired "What brought this up now?" as I thought things were settling >> > down. >> > >> > Fourth, having said all of that, I remain very disappointed in James and >> > the way he has spun this without coming forward with the community about >> > what happened. He claimed reasons for his dismissal that everyone else >> > on the board agrees unanimously are not the reasons. I haven't seen him >> > acknowledge that he was wrong about that, and I haven't seen him own up >> > to the things that actually upset people. >> > >> > There are many narratives being spun by people who weren't there, who >> > have made all kinds of assumption that aren't true. >> > >> >> There is a simple and easy way to rectify this: you and the other members >> of the board can honestly and fully describe the circumstances that led you >> to eject Heilman from the board. I've seen lots of indirect and >> non-specific claims from both sides; I wish you would all stop making vague >> assertions and just tell us what happened. I'm sure you can come up with >> lots of reasons why you Simply Cannot Do That, but if that's the case then >> maybe stop talking about it altogether. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>