I agree about the meta discussion, but maybe not just about this account. It is
an issue for all platform-related web accounts, in the end. If there is nothing
else that page would be kinda of a "precedent" of the issue at meta level. I
have been trying to learn more about it actually, but I faced on wiki platforms
a very fragmented scenario.
The reason I am looking around is because I've tried to discuss some similar
aspects in the mailing list of WM Italy last week. I was talking about existing
and potential facebook groups regarding local areas (such as "region X on
wikipedia"), which are useful to attract new editors, contacts (local
associations, aldermen...) or contents.
Now, it seems to me that some aspects apply to the general case of social
accounts "related" to main WMF platforms. Just an example: I pointed out for
example how the presence amongst the volunteers or managers of users with
advanced flag (e.g. OTRS permission in my example) would be useful in some
circumstances.
We should really promote a request for comments on the issue. It would be very
interesting and help to share valuable expertise.
Il Lunedì 16 Maggio 2016 9:08, Steinsplitter Wiki
<steinsplitter-w...@live.com> ha scritto:
As far i can see there are two volunteers listed at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Social_media/Facebook , i talked
with Yann - it wasn't him.
The second volunteer is Rodrigo.Argenton, and i am wondering who granted him
access - looking at his block log i don't feel comfortable at all [1].
Opinion: A page on meta schould be created and who operates which account.
--Steinsplitter
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ARodrigo.Argenton
> From: jameso...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 14:31:52 -0700
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons Picture of the Year 2015 round 2 voting
> has started
>
> Actually those uploading images on the Wikimedia Commons FB page are
> volunteers
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Social_media/Facebook> (I don't
> think they're all listed there but probably the right place to start), I'd
> encourage you to talk to them directly if you think there is a problem with
> their uploads instead of jumping to conclusions and assuming it must be the
> "evil WMF" doing it and using a great thread like this to try and score
> some points against them.
>
> For those interested:
>
> I know that the verified channels which the Communication team posts on
> frequently (Especially the Wikimedia <https://twitter.com/wikipedia> &
> Wikipedia <https://twitter.com/wikipedia> twitter and the Wikipedia FB page
> <https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia>) purposely follow a set of Best
> Practices
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Best_practices#On_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Wikipedia_branded_accounts>
> that include very explictly "Do not post media that is not either owned or
> co-owned by the Wikimedia Foundation (such as photos we take), in the
> public domain or licensed under CC0". They do occasionally post other CC
> images but only after getting explicit approval/permission from the
> copyright holder including how to attribute etc.
>
> On a personal basis I think the inability to post most CC images on SM
> sites is a massive problem for the licenses as a whole (and for many free
> licenses). This is not only because SM sites are such a large part of
> modern life right now (and so we are cutting off an important audience who
> we WANT using free images rather then repeatedly using more closed
> copyrighted material, though they are still doing that now ALSO against the
> SM Terms of Use) but it's also because it's so befuddling to people that
> they generally ignore it encouraging people to ignore the licenses in
> general. Not only the general public but those who know the licences well
> think of them as designed to ALLOW sharing so the idea that they can't
> share them is shocking to them (so they DO share them). In fact, contrary
> to your accusation, I don't know of ANY other organizations that ensure
> they are following the SM site Terms of Use and the CC licenses when
> posting. I've even seen Creative Commons itself, on it's official Twitter
> and Facebook accounts, posting CC images against the terms.
>
> James Alexander
> User:Jamesofur [Personal capacity, Staff account: Jalexander-WMF]
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Toby Dollmann <toby.dollm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > You are right.and truly we are spoiled for choice
> >
> > It is very satisfying to observe that some entries from professional
> > photographers are nowadays explicitly stating their CC-BY-SA licences fo
> > rCommons do not enable their copyrighted works to be uploaded to Facebook
> > (and by implication to similar sites).
> >
> > eg: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cccefalon/fb
> >
> > And yet, I see that the Wikimedia volunteers on Facebook blissfully
> > uploading "Pictures of the day" ignorant of all the legalese
> >
> > eg:
> > https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.Commons/posts/1127382660617355:0
> > https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.Commons/posts/1120943991261222:0
> >
> > Toby
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Peter Southwood <
> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How can one choose amongst those photos? They are all excellent.
> > > Peter
> > >
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> > > started
> > >
> > > Commons Picture of the Year 2015 round 2 voting has started:
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2015.
> > > There are many excellent finalists.
> > >
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