Thanks for these updates, Carlos and all.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Salvador A <salvador1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I want to close the chapter of this discussion related to
> quantitative-qualitative criteria in order to call your attention to some
> consequences of this new criteria for existing affiliates. I want to be
> clear on this in order to avoid future missunderstandings.
>
> Romaine said that it's desirable to have already recognized affiliates to
> meet this criteria. Both AffCom and BoT want this, and it's would be unfair
> to require this criteria only for groups that want to get the ThOrg and
> Chapter status and at the same time to have a lesser average of work among
> those that already are recognized as such. Consequently, *every ThOrg and
> Chapter must comply with this criteria in order to get and keep affiliate
> status. *The idea is keeping the affiliates moving forward and to avoid to
> get them dormant.
>
> This criteria will be checked out during the annual review that WMF staff
> makes of Chapters and ThOrgs status (yes, the same that make you eligible
> to go to WMCON in Berlin) in case an affiliate doesn't meet the
> requirementes it will be reported to AffCom who will decide in every case
> if a recomendation to Board of Trustees is needed.
>
> ---
> *Possible questions:*
>
> *Q1: My chapter/ThOrg exists since many years ago, could I loose my
> recognition as chapter?*
>
> *A1:* Yes, if you don't meet the criteria and you don't repair the
> situation during some time after AffCom request, you can loose it.
>
> *Q2: How can I do to avoid this?*
>
> *A2:* Work hard, make activities, set goals and report. Ask for AffCom, WMF
> or other affiliates help if is needed.
>
> *Q3: But there are some chapters that have already many years without
> activity and nothing had happened so far.*
>
> *A3:* AffCom is already working on it.
>
> ---
> If you have any other questions on that doesn't hesitate in doing it, I'm
> sure Carlos will be happy of answer them :P
>
> Regards!
>
> 2016-08-22 22:31 GMT-05:00 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Point Im trying to make is focus on the positives to achieve what you
> > want, your path isnt necessarily be that which will help others, accept
> > that vague definitions is better than actual numbers to do that you need
> to
> > assume good faith and trust that the vague will fair to challenges we all
> > face in own circumstances number are hard and fast they cant always be
> fair
> >
> > On 23 August 2016 at 11:20, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Gnangarra,
> >>
> >> I agree with you about the vision. I think that where we see things
> >> differently may be in the discussion of how we achieve the vision.
> >> Individuals have a lot of freedom in the Wikimedia community, but
> >> organizations exist in a complicated world with real money, real laws,
> >> real
> >> people, and a variety of circumstances that can help or hinder progress.
> >> We
> >> want to share the sum of human knowledge, and to do that effectively
> >> requires a coordinated effort. Wikimedia is an incredibly complicated
> >> collection of entities, of which affiliates are a part.
> >>
> >> I am very mindful that real resources (time and money) are involved in
> >> Wikimedia, and I would like those resources to be used wisely,
> >> transparently, and fairly in service of the mission.
> >>
> >> I need to depart thread so that I can focus on other projects, but I
> plan
> >> to return here in a week or two.
> >>
> >> Pine
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