Um actually I meant folding the sections up in long articles in the default
desktop version, not the "desktop" option on mobile

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:08 PM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes reducing page weight is important work. Glad to see progress. With
> respect to "folding up" sections on desktop, how many people are using
> desktop on mobile?
>
> Might be good to have "folding up" as an option? When I travel gmail gives
> me the option to load the low bandwidth version of their email service.
> Could we do the same? Basically have two versions of the desktop version
> depending connection speeds?
>
> James
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Adele Vrana <avr...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Huge congratulations to the team! I can't wait to see the data and
> blogpost
> > on this. A cheaper Wikipedia mobile will go a long way to help us address
> > the data affordability barrier, attract new Wikipedia Zero partners and
> > bring in new readers.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting to see the drop in bytes sent to the Japan article and this
> > > makes me think we should "fold up" article sections on desktop too for
> > very
> > > long articles, such as the Japan article. The benefits for mobile are
> > > obvious, but this may be beneficial for slow desktop connections as
> well.
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Jon Robson <jrob...@wikimedia.org>
> > > Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:20 PM
> > > Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Mobile site is now lazy loading images
> > > To: mobile-l <mobil...@lists.wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia developers <
> > > wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI after much experimentation, research and testing the mobile site
> has
> > > been lazy loading images [1] since Thursday 18th August. This means if
> > you
> > > do not see an image you will not download it. We have taken care to
> > ensure
> > > users without JavaScript can still view images and that most users will
> > > barely notice the difference.
> > >
> > > We are currently crunching the data this change has made and we plan to
> > > write a blog post to reporting the results.
> > >
> > > In our experiments on Japanese Wikipedia we saw a drop in image bytes
> per
> > > page view by 54% On the Japanese Japan article bytes shipped to users
> > > dropped from 1.443 MB to 142 kB.
> > >
> > > This is pretty huge since bytes equate to money [3] and we expect this
> to
> > > be significant on wikis where mobile data is more expensive. In a
> > nutshell
> > > Wikipedia mobile is cheaper.
> > >
> > > As I said blog post to follow once we have more information, but please
> > > report any bugs you are seeing with the implementation (we have already
> > > found a few thanks to our community of editors).
> > >
> > > ~Jon
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/
> > > Performance/Lazy_loading_images
> > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Lazy_loading_
> > > of_images_on_Japanese_Wikipedia
> > > [3] https://whatdoesmysitecost.com/
> > >
> > >
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