Needs a bit of process clarification here...

So here is what we did (I know it is not perfect, but we did within our constraints and own skills).

1. I created a category on the English Wikipedia

I categorized the 16 articles from their talk page.
This category is simply a maintenance one (not used in the article mainspace)

In the future (asap I have the time...), I will rather create a template which will include the above category and replace the category in the talk page by the template. This will allow me to make the information prettier and more explicit (using a logo etc.).
But practically... the category is enough.

2. Sam (AfricanHope) wrote a bot :

The bot is updating this page to list articles per language :

It does not use all languages, but only languages listed on this table :

Where does that list come from ? Well... it includes all languages used at least once in one of the 16 biographies.

One thing the bot does NOT do is identify when a new language (not in the list above) is added.

I will have to figure that out on the way... it could certainly be automated... at the same time... we talk only of 16 articles to check. So... I may be lazy and just check once a day.

But if anyone knows a quick query that is able to tell me "which new language has been added as a new translation version on one of the 16 articles, which is not in the current list"... feel free to contact me ;)

3) There were quite a few already existing articles in various languages. So I have done a quick review of the state of those articles at start. I summarize those state here :

4) The inclusion of the username on the meta page is not really to track participants. It is simply a human element, a place where we can meet and share and see which people are interested helping. It is more of a networking place if you want.

5) The complete list of participants is totally findable anytime Isaac.
I have not tried to do the query myself yet. It is essentially
* list of all usernames
* which edited those 16 biographies
* in any language (or the sublist above)
* between 20th of Feb and the 07 of March

We can even rank the result by "number of characters added" (in case we think quantity is a measure of involvement - which I am not fully sure).

Or we can rank the result by "number of biographies edited" by participants.



It is nice to consider a category or template to tag the talk page of each article in all language for "community building" reasons (as in "this article participated to the "16WikiWomen translation project"). Because it is simply cool for us together to remember what we did, when we did it, why we did it. It is cool to see who is interested. That's why we stick around doing the things we do. That's the HUMAN element.

But, when it comes to tracking...(to measure success), we do not need that category system to know who edited those articles...
Big brother ...


Le 21/02/2017 à 00:56, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
Hi Romaine,

Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on 
Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you have 
correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is different 
from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content categories. We use 
it to track the number of articles created as part of a project/contest as well 
as the number of participants.

Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation 
project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of 
participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that I'm 
a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be 
considered as a routine contribution.

Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen 
organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translated and 
the number of participants, to measure the success of their project.

If there is something like "Category:16WikiWomen" for example, they could visit 
each language Wikipedia they listed on the project page and search for the category. This 
would show the number of articles translated and the translators (participants).

"Category:Women footballers" - to check for women footballers or number of 
women footballers.

"Category:16WikiWomen" - to check for the number of articles translated or the 
number of translator.

The two above illustrative categories have different scope.

Please, correct me if I am wrong.


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Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.


2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac <>:

Hi Flo,

I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
part of 16 WikiWomen?


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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !

If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :

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