Pine

If the objects of the affiliate are compatible with those of the
Foundation, then you could ask for a grant.  If they are not, why would the
Foundation even consider letting you raise funds on their sites.

"Rogol"

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if WMF would be willing to let a non-WMF affiliate put up
> fundraising (which I consider to be another form of advertising, and
> perhaps some survey respondents did too) banners to get funds for COIN and
> related backlogs. Perhaps if the fundraising was done by a separate
> organization, then these efforts could be funded while minimizing the risks
> to WMF's legal protections.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:20 AM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > what proportion of articles at NPP appear paid for?
> > > And what percentage of socks / sock cases relate to paid editing?
> >
> > I would sure like to know this.
> >
> > I would also like to whether the Foundation could, hypothetically,
> > hire editors to address the COIN and related backlogs (AFC, etc.)
> > without endangering the safe harbor provisions; and if not, could a
> > Chapter or User Group, if they were or were not using Foundation
> > funds. Could the Foundation spin off an organization to address the
> > issue separately as in WikiEd?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:51 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I find the slide
> > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:July_
> > 2017_Monthly_Metrics_Meeting.pdf&page=22>
> > > about whether or not people feel we are "free of advertising"
> interesting
> > > as we only got a 7.3 (with lower scores among younger readers).
> > >
> > > We unfortunately are not free of advertising. There is a large and
> > appears
> > > to be growing industry that sells Wikipedia articles / ads, which are
> > > mostly created through large groups of sock accounts. They also are
> > > involved with adding SEO links.
> > >
> > > We are struggling to get a handle on this at the COI notice board
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_
> > interest/Noticeboard>,
> > > which has seen over the last couple of days the listing of more than a
> > > hundred additional articles of concern, at SPI, and at WikiProject
> Spam.
> > >
> > > Would be useful to analysis just how significant this issue is, such as
> > > what proportion of articles at NPP appear paid for? And what percentage
> > of
> > > socks / sock cases relate to paid editing?
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all  —
> > >>
> > >> Wikimania is coming, but before we get to Montreal, we are publishing
> > many
> > >> more insights, reports, guides, and research from our work during
> cycle
> > 3.
> > >> There's lots of good stuff and interesting insights (did you know
> Spain
> > is
> > >> consistently one of the countries with the highest awareness about our
> > >> projects and community?), and I encourage you to take a look. Here
> are a
> > >> few new updates:
> > >>
> > >> *New voices synthesis report.*[1] Are you looking to better understand
> > >> New Voices projects? Start with this overview report — it summarizes
> our
> > >> work across many teams: insights from research, a summary of 58 expert
> > >> interviews, expert convenings hosted by the Foundation and affiliates,
> > >> design research findings, briefings on major trends that will impact
> the
> > >> community like misinformation and emerging platforms, further reading,
> > and
> > >> (of course!) references.
> > >>
> > >> *July Wikimedia Foundation metrics meeting.*[2] During our July 27
> > >> meeting, we reviewed new research on brand insights about why people
> do
> > >> (and do not) read Wikipedia, research that focuses on high-awareness
> > >> countries as part of New Voices initiatives.
> > >>
> > >> *Strategic direction committee update.*[3] We are working to consider
> > >> what we have heard from the community and learned from research to
> > identify
> > >> what we want to achieve as a movement by 2030. We will share our first
> > >> draft of the strategic direction with all of you in advance of
> > Wikimania.
> > >> We’re looking forward to your thoughts on the talk page!
> > >>
> > >> *Wikimania movement strategy and events.*[4] Speaking of Wikimania,
> the
> > >> Foundation is preparing 6 sessions related to the strategy process in
> > the
> > >> official program. We will also offer you a physical location for
> > engaging
> > >> with the strategic direction: the Movement Strategy Space, open from
> > >> Thursday through Sunday. The Space will host different working
> sessions,
> > >> discussions, and the chance to re-energize for the coming weeks and
> > months
> > >> (we have some special things in store!). The conference organizers are
> > also
> > >> preparing a remote attendee plan with live video and content for the
> > >> conference overall, so you will be able to participate if you’re not
> > able
> > >> to come to Montreal. Please note that online registration ended July
> 31;
> > >> after that you can register on-site starting August 8.[5]
> > >>
> > >> ভালো থাকবেন। (Bengali translation: “Stay well”)
> > >>
> > >> Katherine
> > >>
> > >> PS. A version of this message is available for translation on
> > Meta-Wiki.[6]
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > >> movement/2017/Sources/New_Voices_Synthesis_report_(July_2017)
> > >> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > >> metrics_and_activities_meetings
> > >> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > >> movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group
> > >> [4] https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030
> > >> [5] https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration
> > >> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > >> movement/2017/Updates/23_June_2017_-_Update_19_on_Wikimedia_
> > >> movement_strategy_process
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Katherine Maher
> > >>
> > >> Wikimedia Foundation
> > >> 149 New Montgomery Street
> > >> San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >>
> > >> +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 <(415)%20839-6885>
> > >> +1 (415) 712 4873 <(415)%20712-4873>
> > >> kma...@wikimedia.org
> > >> https://annual.wikimedia.org
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Strategy mailing list
> > >> strat...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Heilman
> > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> > >
> > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
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