that notice states that text has been used, a specific citation where the
text would add context by using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Refn

On 27 August 2017 at 22:22, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Use of a template does not accurately identify the copied text, and in this
> case nor the author.
>
> The license is the contract with the author and the reason why the text can
> be copied. If the license says the author shall be identified, the by
> attribution clause, then a link to the site is not good enough. If the
> share alike clause is given, then it is even harder to give correct credit,
> as the request for credit can be pretty weird.
>
> Anyhow, a page that is later edited is not necessarily something the
> external editor has created, he or she has created a part that at some
> point in time was incorporated in the page, and the present page may not
> even contain this content anymore.
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:CC-notice on en at least
> > specifically for the purpose of incorporating text licensed cc-by content
> > within articles
> >
> > On 27 August 2017 at 21:28, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In some cases we need to attribute content created on external sites,
> and
> > > reused on Wikimedia-sites. In Norway Åndsverksloven says "The creator
> has
> > > the right to be named according to good practice" ("Opphavsmannen har
> > krav
> > > på å bli navngitt slik som god skikk tilsier") and for our content that
> > is
> > > given by our license and our terms of use. That means by a link to the
> > page
> > > if possible, or if possible an entry in the history.
> > >
> > > Now we use a template on the page itself, or similar, but it is not the
> > > page on our site that the external entity has provided, they have
> > provided
> > > the content at their site. So we must say that in some consistent way.
> > >
> > > I believe that the best option would be to have a log entry injected
> into
> > > the history for our page that says "this revision comes in full or part
> > > from that external source". Such an entry could be made by the editor
> or
> > by
> > > an administrator, but must be made as an extension of the revision. It
> > > should also be possible to delete such an entry.
> > >
> > > An alternative could be to make the summary editable, but the summary
> is
> > > the description of the revision, not the source of the revision.
> > >
> > > Does this make sense? Will it solve the problem, or is it just another
> > > level that makes things more confusing?
> > >
> > > John Erling Blad
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