Stright from the Norwegian Åndsverksloven

§ 3. The author is entitled to be named as good practice, as well as on
copies of the intellectual property as when made available to the public.

Good practice on Wikipedia is a reference in the page history.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kaya
>
> With all due respect if there are potential solutions already created then
> it doent matter which project or what language they are on they can be
> adapted and translated as necessary, even made global
>
>
>
>
> On 29 August 2017 at 19:53, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > With all due respect. These templates are probably English Wikipedia
> only.
> > Consequently they are not available on a Wikimedia level.
> > Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> > On 29 August 2017 at 13:39, Richard Farmbrough <rich...@farmbrough.co.uk
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We have a number of source specific templates, such  as {{EB1911}} for
> > > acknowledging re-used source material.  There is as yet no automatic
> > >  mechanism for changing these as and when the actual copying is
> replaced
> > > entirely.
> > >
> > > On 28 Aug 2017 01:18, "Gnangarra" <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > but the information is exactly the same, url, date, author, title -
> the
> > > > refn template can include anything you need to add including license
> > > detail
> > > > ie cc-by all of which can be internal or external links
> > > >
> > > > On 28 August 2017 at 00:26, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Citation and reuse is two different things.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > that notice states that text has been used, a specific citation
> > where
> > > > the
> > > > > > text would add context by using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> > > > > > Template:Refn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 27 August 2017 at 22:22, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Use of a template does not accurately identify the copied text,
> > and
> > > > in
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > case nor the author.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The license is the contract with the author and the reason why
> > the
> > > > text
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > be copied. If the license says the author shall be identified,
> > the
> > > by
> > > > > > > attribution clause, then a link to the site is not good enough.
> > If
> > > > the
> > > > > > > share alike clause is given, then it is even harder to give
> > correct
> > > > > > credit,
> > > > > > > as the request for credit can be pretty weird.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyhow, a page that is later edited is not necessarily
> something
> > > the
> > > > > > > external editor has created, he or she has created a part that
> at
> > > > some
> > > > > > > point in time was incorporated in the page, and the present
> page
> > > may
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > even contain this content anymore.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Gnangarra <
> gnanga...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:CC-notice on
> > en
> > > at
> > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > specifically for the purpose of incorporating text licensed
> > cc-by
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > within articles
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 27 August 2017 at 21:28, John Erling Blad <
> jeb...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In some cases we need to attribute content created on
> > external
> > > > > sites,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > reused on Wikimedia-sites. In Norway Åndsverksloven says
> "The
> > > > > creator
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > the right to be named according to good practice"
> > > ("Opphavsmannen
> > > > > har
> > > > > > > > krav
> > > > > > > > > på å bli navngitt slik som god skikk tilsier") and for our
> > > > content
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > given by our license and our terms of use. That means by a
> > link
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > > if possible, or if possible an entry in the history.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now we use a template on the page itself, or similar, but
> it
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > page on our site that the external entity has provided,
> they
> > > have
> > > > > > > > provided
> > > > > > > > > the content at their site. So we must say that in some
> > > consistent
> > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe that the best option would be to have a log entry
> > > > > injected
> > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > the history for our page that says "this revision comes in
> > full
> > > > or
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > from that external source". Such an entry could be made by
> > the
> > > > > editor
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > an administrator, but must be made as an extension of the
> > > > revision.
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > > should also be possible to delete such an entry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > An alternative could be to make the summary editable, but
> the
> > > > > summary
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > the description of the revision, not the source of the
> > > revision.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does this make sense? Will it solve the problem, or is it
> > just
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > level that makes things more confusing?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John Erling Blad
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