Sorry, but this is a horribly bad idea, and anyone that try to do what you propose runs a serious legal risk.
I guess you will have a few support, but I really hope this will newer be implemented. John On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:01 AM, James Heilman <[email protected]> wrote: > I am wanting to protect Wikipedians from being impersonated. I am also > wanting to protect those on Upworks and other sites from hiring people who > are community banned or editing in breach of policy but pretending they are > legit. This proposal will help with both of those. > > That people sometimes struggle to get help on Wikipedia, while unfortunate, > is not the problem this proposal is working to address. > > If you are using Upworks etc for offering services other than the editing > of Wikipedia for pay this proposal does not affect you in anyway. If you > are a disclosed paid editor, you already per the terms of use are required > to state the intermediaries you are working through and thus you should > already be doing this. > > This proposal will actually help people find "white hat" paid editors who > properly disclose. > > James > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:48 PM, John Erling Blad <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Okey, I may have (or perhaps not) edited a page. Perhaps I have an > account > > on Upwork (or perhaps not). That page may have been edited because I had > a > > discussion with someone at Upwork (or perhaps not). I could also been > > discussing editing the page at OTRS, but again, perhaps not. > > > > How can you know that? Because I am "jeblad"? What if I am "honky donky" > on > > Wikipedia? Do you really believe that because someone said people doing > > paid editing should say so actually do so? > > > > From point b on your RfC "but yet there is no account on Wikipedia that > > discloses that account", how do you plan on figuring out which account on > > those two systems are the same? To identify the culprit you must connect > > two dots, and you don't have enough information about neither of them. > > > > I am on Upwork because a big and rather well-known organization asked me > to > > create an account. I have even edited pages! Yay! Go figure which one, > and > > why! ;p (To make it easy, their initials reads W-M-F, and no it was not > > about Wikipedia-editing.) > > > > I see all the postings from people that ask for help about their > wikipedia > > pages. People ask for help because the failure of the > wikipedia-communities > > to provide sufficient help. Going after the people that help them is not > a > > good solution, it is (sorry) a stupid solution. If someone ask for help, > > then help them! > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:22 AM, James Heilman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why? IMO it will protect users from being impersonated. > > > > > > It will allow us to more easily have taken down Fivver and Upworks > > accounts > > > that are pretending to be established Wikipedians. > > > > > > How would this leak anything? People involve with paid editor are > already > > > required to disclose the intermediaries through which they work and > this > > > does not change that. > > > > > > James > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:19 PM, John Erling Blad <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry, bad idea. Can't be done and will only lead to stalking and > > > > alienating users. (Or rather it can be done, but would imply leakage > of > > > > identifiable information to such a degree that it would put the > > involved > > > > organizations on the front pages for weeks.) > > > > > > > > John Erling Blad > > > > /jeblad > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM, James Heilman <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Have started a meta RfC regarding the above* here > > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/ > > > > > interlinking_of_accounts_involved_with_paid_editing_to_ > > > > > decrease_impersonation>.* > > > > > > > > > > This is to help address issues of impersonation of established > > > > Wikipedians > > > > > by paid editors. > > > > > > > > > > Further thoughts appreciated. Best > > > > > -- > > > > > James Heilman > > > > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > > > > > > > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject= > unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > James Heilman > > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
