Personally, I think that if person has an ID on some databases, than it can stay on wikidata. Once in a while some database can be removed if issues are pointed out about their accuracy, but if a database is sound and professional, we should use it to fix an item. it could be the same for a databases of sites, buildings or museum items too. Creating a wikipedia-style averaged policy on the issue is much more vague. Especially when local pages do not exist, the IDs is the key parameter to start, IMHO. It is ok if a wikipedia has only a fraction of relevant "photographers" or "painters" or "athletes"... but a database should be complete and objective, it cannot rely on the funnel of what some wikipedia accepts and other don't, it would make it more biased and unbalanced importing a local bias. What's the point for example if I find an archive of Dutch photographers with IDs to import only those that have a page on nlwiki (or maybe enwiki, dewiki, frwiki)? You import all the codes, some items will have wikipedia pages, some will not, what's the real issue on this aspect? Being standardized and coherent is more important for an archive. About the quality of the items, this comes as a second step. Some of them will always be less cured, we can say that for a BLP a minimum requirement of properties is necessary for example. I can accept that an item with just one ID is removed if no additional information can be found. That is, a BLP item with a limited number of properties and no platform and just one ID can be proposed for deletion, although this should not be an automatism. But if you care about an item, you can improve it if it risks to be deleted. This is a functional issue, if an item does not tell me if you're a man or a woman, your age, your profession... well it is basically few things more than a ugly duplicate of a string in the url of the original database, so what's its utility? Some more complete output in some basic query here and there, maybe, but it should be possible to ask more. The point is that this should be considered in the framework of a database and its use, a more "functional" than "philosophical" perspective. P.S. Not sure I have understood the blue and red link request, in some minor wiki red link can be linked to wikidata, but why the blue one?
Il Martedì 26 Settembre 2017 19:07, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> ha scritto: Hoi, There is a lot to do about the current absence of a BLP policy at Wikidata. Many people, particularly those involved in Wikipedia, insist on one and a policy that is a mirror image of their policy. I am opposed to such an approach because it will be detrimental to the best practices in Wikidata and it will stifle the inclusion of data. Nevertheless there is a need for better quality particularly where it concerns BLP. Only being against is a bad position so I have laid out the arguments for a more inclusive BLP and quality approach . It does bring many of the relevant questions together. What this approach accomplishes is: * better quality in both Wikipedia and Wikidata * an opt in change in the Wikipedia environment that links blue and red links to Wikidata items * it allows for the Wikidata best practices * it invites any Wikimedia collaborator to make a positive difference for our overall BLP. What it does not provide is an instant BLP solution for Wikidata, this is not realistic given the huge number of items involved, people often specific to one or no Wikipedia. It will not convince everyone and that too is to be expected. After all the proof of the pudding is in the eating and not so much in the endless bickering. Thanks, GerardM  https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2017/09/wikimedia-and-its-blp-approach.html _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>