Because of a truly great idea <https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Log/block&page=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D%3ATeles> the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&user=&page=Codex+Sinaiticus%40amwiki&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=> by Marco Aurelio.
Vito Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of > nondiscrimination policy [2] > > [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it be > forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda if > you expect Ethiopians to take part." > [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination > > Best > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one > > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over > about a > > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects. The > > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor > > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the automatic > > account creation algorithm. The account was created 8 years ago, and has > > actively edited a wide variety of projects, including several > wikipedias, > > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's > > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made on > > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to have > > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the editor > > was "looking at" the project on 9 February 2018. The block for account > > name was made on 22 October 2018. I note that accounts were created on > > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February 2018. > > > > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor was > > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account, explicitly > > because of the perception that their username calls attention to the > sexual > > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is in > fact > > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it is > a > > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block > > reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the > account > > was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, nor > do > > we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username like > > "StraightGuy101" would be blocked. We do know that there are only 4 > > administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50 > > active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason for > > the delay between automatic account creation and the account block. > > > > We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all > > Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames that > are > > acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've known > that > > for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies when it > > comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that is > > acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language, even in > > cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username would > be a > > problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of > cases > > where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on all > > kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on other > > projects. > > > > I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the editor > > themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always wary > of > > turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct > > agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the first > > step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor > > whether or not they want their "case" to be examined. > > > > Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest that the next step is for > someone > > who has the ability to converse in Amharic to contact the Amharic > Wikipedia > > and find out why the block has been issued, how it is consistent with the > > username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, whether that policy is driven in > part > > by external considerations (e.g., does the project risk heavy > governmental > > scrutiny if it appears to "promote" locally unacceptable activities). I > am > > personally curious as to why it took over six months to identify that > this > > account did not meet the local username policy, and whether there was > > internal or external discussion about the username. > > > > It is not clear to me what the desired outcome is in this case - at least > > in part because we have no idea of the opinion of the editor involved. I > > am hard-pressed to say that a project should be required to allow > usernames > > that it has a long history of considering unacceptable, especially if it > is > > applied evenly to all accounts; in this case, if it disallows usernames > > that imply sexual preference regardless of what that preference is. > > > > It seems to me that the WMF Trust & Safety group would probably be the > > right group to examine this. > > > > Risker/Anne > > > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 09:42, Ariel Glenn WMF <ar...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > > > Additional notes: > > > The user's regular page can be viewed on en wikipedia: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist > > > Queer may have to do with gender identity as opposed to being an > > indicator > > > of 'sexual behavior', so the blockers didn't even get that right. > > Example: > > > I am gender-nonconforming as to my gender identity and expression; this > > is > > > the primary reason I use the label 'queer'. > > > > > > I believe this should be reported... somewhere. But I don't know where. > > The > > > WMF CoC only covers technical spaces. A little help here? > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:26 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Do we have cross project policies to govern or limit local policies > > > > for the use of sysop tools? I would like to pass on policy advice, > and > > > > any past cases folks here would like to highlight that set a > > > > precedent. > > > > > > > > The case below is illustrative, though based on my recall of several > > > > complaints which went nowhere over the years, on email lists, and > > > > Jimmy's talk page, about apparently arbitrary blocks on different > > > > non-English Wikipedias, it seems reasonable to believe those > > > > complaints are the tip of the iceberg, and there are likely to be > many > > > > historical cases of blocks that could have been appealed... had the > > > > user been confident to complain in English, and have the energy to > > > > pursue generic WMF policies on terms of use, or > > > > harassment/discrimination, to establish a meta-level case. > > > > > > > > # Example case > > > > > > > > An account block on the Amharic Wikipedia (am.wp) was flagged up > > > > yesterday on the WM LGBT+ Telegram discussion group.[3] The rationale > > > > for blocking the account was because the account name includes the > > > > word "Queer"[1]. The incident raises questions about process and > > > > accountability, particularly as the block gives the impression that > > > > this is the norm or an agreed interpretation of policy for sysops on > > > > am.wp, and because the user is well established using this account > > > > name across Wikimedia projects and has never edited am.wp so the > block > > > > cannot be based on any prior action or dispute. > > > > > > > > In this example there is no obvious process for appeal, if sysops on > > > > that project think that blocking any LGBT+ related account name > > > > represents local consensus. After off-wiki discussion, the WMF Trust > > > > and Safety team has been approached for advice,[2] as the rationale > > > > for the action appears hostile to any openly LGBT+ volunteers who > > > > might want to include something queer looking in their account name > > > > (such as my account name, should anyone want to read it as > transgender > > > > related). > > > > > > > > # Links > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Contributions/QueerEcofeminist > > > > ; > > > > the block log states "Names calling attention to your sexual behavior > > > > have never been allowed here in 15 years and aren't suddenly allowed > > > > in 2018" > > > > 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trust_and_Safety > > > > 3. https://telegram.me/wmlgbt > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Fae > > > > -- > > > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
