Hoi, I am troubled with the ease doubt is raised about people contributing to this mailing list/ our community/ our projects. This is a mailing list that has the option of moderation. That is already in itself a sure way of driving people away. However, it is not the same as going whole hog and ban like it is proposed.
Our community needs to have a plurality of points of view and for me this is yet another moment where the view point of others is not respected, a moment where we are way too aggressive in ostracising someone who has been with us for a long time. I have seen on multiple occasions how people with a long track record become lost to us. All because of what, the greater good? Sad indeed. Thanks, GerardM On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 19:05, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for his > own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the WMF > or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way > that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions are > an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list. > > Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different > perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a > step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple > occasions to stay on topic. I am not sure that James needs to remain a > contributor to this list. > > Risker/Anne > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi <kevinpayr...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's > clear > > > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has > > no > > > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct? > > > > Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to > > encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors" > > which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation > > given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law: > > > > https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449 > > https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273 > > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgw...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to > > > do with the Foundation's mission. > > > > That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The > > idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the > > proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means > > contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective. > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia! > > > > > > > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower > > > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia > > > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering > > > > people to collect and develop educational content: > > > > > > > > http://bit.ly/wikimission > > > > > > > > The survey results are summarized after form submission. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Jim Salsman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>