No, you aren't missing anything. The timeline is strange. As Antanana wrote, *"The conversation about how User Groups may participate in this process has been on for years, it is not a new topic [4]." * So if it isn't a new proposal, why the board jumped to do this change so close to the election instead of a year or so before? On the other hand, if this issue is old enough, so why do the change now, instead of holding the elections and then conduct (without pressure) a REAL discussion and DEEP thinking about how to involve UGs while maintaining equal elections.
*Itzik Edri* Chairperson [email protected] +972-54-5878078 On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:01 PM effe iets anders <[email protected]> wrote: > As for process.. While I appreciate that this time, the change was at least > announced before the vote, and that some board members at least engaged in > some conversation - I have yet to see how this was taken into consideration > by the board as a whole. It feels like the board already made up its mind. > > What is surprising me most, is that it took a month for this announcement > to be made - especially considering a time sensitive process being impacted > by this decision. Or did I miss a more timely announcement elsewhere? > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:19 AM Santiago Navarro < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > In fact, I did not participate in the discussion page on meta about > > that, because I guessed that my opinion would not be taken in account, > > neither discussed, and now it seems that, sadly, I was right in that > > thought. > > > > El 2019-02-19 17:25, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel escribió: > > > Antanana and the board, > > > > > > I find it sad and disappointing that after such a long conversation on > > > the > > > talk page, there wasn't any comment on the talk page or in this > > > statement > > > about the problem of double voting by many UG's members. Did the board > > > even > > > discuss that or we just wasted our time giving feedback on it? > > > > > > Ensuring equality in voting is the basis for every democracy and is > > > trampled here completely without any comment from the board about how > > > to > > > ensure it. > > > > > > > > > *Itzik Edri* > > > Chairperson > > > [email protected] > > > +972-54-5878078 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:18 PM Nataliia Tymkiv <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hello all! > > >> > > >> The Wikimedia Foundation Board has unanimously approved the changes to > > >> the > > >> Bylaws [1] during the last Board meeting on January 30, 2019. This > > >> will be > > >> covered in the minutes, and the resolution will be published in short > > >> order. > > >> > > >> This change allows the participation of User Groups [2] in the > > >> Affiliate-selected Board seats (ASBS) 2019 process [3]. The > > >> discussion > > >> about this process should start as soon as possible in order to have > > >> these > > >> two seats selected by Wikimania. This is why we are sending this > > >> letter > > >> now, before the resolution is published. > > >> > > >> There are now over 100 recognized User Groups, covering over 50 > > >> countries, > > >> several languages and topics, many of whom represent new and emergent > > >> communities within the Wikimedia movement. The Board believes that the > > >> added perspectives of the User Groups, combined with the voices of > > >> Chapters > > >> and Thematic Organizations, will lead to a richer collection of > > >> guidance > > >> for our movement. The conversation about how User Groups may > > >> participate in > > >> this process has been on for years, it is not a new topic [4]. > > >> > > >> Once the facilitators of the Selection process are appointed by the > > >> affiliates, they should work with María Sefidari, who has been chosen > > >> by > > >> the Board as the Board liaison for the ASBS process. > > >> > > >> Given the potential complexity of organizing a process that now will > > >> include over a hundred user groups, the Wikimedia Foundation is > > >> offering > > >> its support to set up infrastructure and help with communications if > > >> requested by the affiliates. > > >> > > >> A page for translation can be found at: > > >> > > >> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019/Wikimedia_Foundation_Bylaws_changed_plus_next_steps > > >> > > >> On behalf of the Board > > >> > > >> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv > > >> > > >> Chair of the Board Governance Committee > > >> > > >> [1] > > >> > > >> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/December_2018_-_Affiliate-selected_trustees,_term_limits,_and_diversity > > >> > > >> > > >> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups > > >> > > >> > > >> [3] > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019 > > >> > > >> > > >> [4] > > >> > > >> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/January_2014_-_Amendment_for_Trustees_selected_by_Chapters_and_Thematic_Organizations > > >> > > >> *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal > > >> working > > >> hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during weekend. > > >> You > > >> should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. 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