If we are discussing such things, why do not we are discussing whether WMF employees are driving to the work or taking public transportation? Or chapter employees? Or volunteers? Or whether volunteers switch off the light when they leave a room (I actually do)?
I really do not think this is a reasonable avenue to proceed. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > Sure, but it seems more realistic than calculating the CO2 > contributions from the management team compared to all the other > employees. > > At the end of the day, how many flights the executive team take as > part of their jobs, and working out whether they are flying less or > more in 2019 compared to 2018, is an very simple and useful fact to be > open and transparent about. Doing so gives everyone a great incentive > to do better. > > Considering the WMF is getting ethical gold stars by putting a Climate > Change banner over the entirety of its website landing page, it is > reasonable to expect that the organization starts by changing itself > and turn the non-committal statements in the WMF presentation from "we > will consider" and "we will seek" in to a meaningful and measurable > "we will act". > > Thanks, > Fae > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:58, Joseph Seddon <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Because # of flights is not a useful metric for assessing environmental > > impact. > > > > Seddon > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 3:23 PM Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Those publications are where my numbers came from. There is no useful > > > transparency to explain how many actual flights are taken, why or by > whom. > > > > > > Fae > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, 15:17 Lucas Werkmeister, < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Did you see the sustainability report that was published yesterday > [1] > > > > [2]? Page 30 of the PDF has some numbers on business travel by air – > > > > some 5.6 million km in total, by the looks of it. Page 32 also shows > > > > that the carbon footprint of air travel is about half that of the > > > > electricity used by the Foundation’s data centers. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lucas > > > > > > > > [1]: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/09/19/how-the-wikimedia-foundation-is-making-efforts-to-go-green > > > > [2]: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Sustainability_Assessment_and_Carbon_Footprint.pdf > > > > > > > > On 20.09.19 15:23, Fæ wrote: > > > > > Nice to see that https://wikimediafoundation.org has a banner > linking > > > > > to the global climate strike today. > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone produce some verifiable metrics that the WMF has taken > > > > > significant action to reduce the total number of aircraft flights > the > > > > > WMF uses? > > > > > > > > > > I am asking as though there are no transparently published figures > for > > > > > how much the WMF spends on air travel, I recall that the Katherine > > > > > Mahler was interviewed by the Wall Street Journal, where is was > part > > > > > of her impressive executive profile to be "on the road" for 200 > days > > > > > of the year. This probably puts Katherine in the very top numbers > for > > > > > CEOs with damaging carbon footprints resulting from travelling so > > > > > often by flying.[1] If the WMF wants to be seen as an ethical > company > > > > > when it comes to reducing their organizational impact on climate > > > > > change, perhaps this could start with publishing travel figures for > > > > > the CEO and the rest of the management team, so that everyone can > see > > > > > whether there is year on year improvement, or none. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the banner, it does help increase the sense of > > > urgency. > > > > > > > > > > Links: > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-35-year-old-executive-director-of-wikimedia-travels-1529588701 > > > > > > > > > > Fae > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
