Thanks for that. 

Pardon me if I've missed something, but that seems to imply, but not directly 
state, that AI training is a derivative work; could you clarify that? 



On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Ryan Merkley <rmerk...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> [My comments are my own, and don’t reflect or suggest any official position 
> from WMF]
> 
> The NBC story linked below come out about a year ago. Around the same time, 
> when I was CEO at Creative Commons, we published a statement and updated FAQs 
> that attempted to respond to questions being asked about permitted uses and 
> attribution related to the licenses.
> 
> CC’s statement (March 2019) is here: 
> https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on-shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/
>  
> <https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on-shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/>
> The FAQs are here: 
> https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses 
> <https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses>
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>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There are several reports of face recognition going mainstream, often
>> in less than optimum circumstances, and often violating copyright and
>> licenses
>> 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/technology/clearview-privacy-facial-recognition.html
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/facial-recognition-s-dirty-little-secret-millions-online-photos-scraped-n981921
>> https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/01/diversity-in-faces/
>> 
>> In my opinion building a model for face recognition is a derived work,
>> and as such must credit the photographers. That pose a real problem
>> when the photographers counts in the millions and billions. Even a 1px
>> fine print would be troublesome!
>> 
>> What is the official stance on this? Is it a copyright infringement or
>> not, does the license(s) cover the case or not?
>> 
>> John Erling Blad
>> /jeblad
>> 
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