The board resolution aims at "addressing harassment and incivility on
Wikimedia projects".

I don't see that this covers "disputes", i.e disputes over content.  We
can, of course, disagree with someone totally over a topic, as long as we
discuss our differences in a civil and respectful way - and consider our
opponent's point-of-view and arguments seriously.

Regards,
Thyge - Sir48


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Den man. 25. maj 2020 kl. 14.45 skrev DerHexer via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>:

> That's a tricky topic, especially when local dispute resolution bodies
> (which should in most cases be approached first, I agree here) cannot solve
> the dispute or when multiple projects are involved. At the moment, there is
> in fact a lack of such body and of course it should be transparent,
> composed of multi-diverse community members who are trained and supported
> by professional mediation, etc. as pointed out. Currently, stewards like me
> are quite often approached with such topics but this user group is more
> focused on technical stuff like userrights. A former steward fellow and I
> discussed this topic at the Safety Space at Wikimania. Due to the nature of
> the space, the discussion have not been documented but you can find the
> presentation with backgrounds of the situation and open questions on
> Commons
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2019_%E2%80%93_Do_we_need_a_global_dispute_resolution_committee%3F.pdf
> >.
> Maybe it can give some ideas how to proceed with this.
>
> Best,
> Martin/DerHexer
>
>
> Am So., 24. Mai 2020 um 06:19 Uhr schrieb Aron Demian <
> aronmanni...@gmail.com>:
>
> > On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 04:25, AntiCompositeNumber <
> > anticompositenum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Would it be fair to say that:
> > >  - Enforcement of a universal code of conduct would happen though a
> > > fair, clearly-defined process without significant bias and with
> > > significant community oversight and input
> > > - Universal code of conduct enforcement actions would be appealable
> > > through a fair, clearly-defined process with significant community
> > > oversight that allowed statements from involved parties and uninvolved
> > > community members
> > > - To ensure proper community oversight, code of conduct enforcement
> > > actions and appeals would be made as public as possible as often as
> > > possible (excepting issues where public disclosure would harm privacy
> > > or safety)
> > >
> > > AntiComposite
> > >
> >
> > Yes! These are fundamental requirements that need to be met by the
> process
> > that will be implemented in the second phase (Aug - end of 2020).
> > It seems there will be an opportunity to incorporate these requirements:
> >
> > The second phase, outlining clear enforcement pathways, and
> > > *refined with** broad input from the Wikimedia communities*, will be
> > > presented to the Board
> > > for ratification by the end of 2020;
> >
> >
> > I'd add a few more points:
> > - To handle workload and different languages, local boards should be
> > selected as the first step of the process, with possible escalation to a
> > global board if necessary (eg. for conflict-of-interest reason).
> > - To minimize bias the boards should consist of people from different
> > areas. As long as the local DR processes remain operational (ANI and the
> > likes), there should be a clear separation of powers: CoC board members
> > should not be involved with local DR to avoid concentration of power.
> Being
> > an admin should not be a requirement, in fact adminship and dispute
> > resolution should be separate roles, as the latter requires specific
> > training or experience, which is not part of the requirements to be
> admin.
> > - There should be at least 2 independent global boards so one can review
> > the other's decisions and handle appeals. Cases should be evaluated by
> the
> > board that has more members unrelated to the involved parties.
> > - Functionaries and board members should be regularly reviewed and terms
> > limited to a few years.
> >
> > About the DR process:
> > - Most of our communication is publicly visible on-wiki, therefore the
> > cases should be resolved in public. Transparency is crucial for community
> > review and a great learning opportunity about dispute resolution.
> > - Privately handled cases should only happen when all parties agree to
> > it, so one party can't use "privacy" as a means to avoid the burden of
> > proof. Non-public evidence should only be taken into account if there is
> a
> > very strong justification, proportional to the sanction that comes from
> it.
> > - Reports, however, should be created privately and published only when
> the
> > case opens. Before the case opens the reporter might seek advice and help
> > to create the report from people they trust. I've outlined a process
> draft
> > for this in the context of the User Reporting System
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_health_initiative/User_reporting_system_consultation_2019#Factual,_evidence_based_reporting_tool_-_draft,_proposal
> > >
> > .
> > - Reports should be treated with respect, as the personal experience of a
> > person. Nobody should be sanctioned for what a report contains, whether
> the
> > boards, or the community finds that true or false, as that would be a
> > deterrent to reporting influential users, who made a mistake or lost
> their
> > way.
> > - The focus should be on dispute *resolution. *Disputes and the resulting
> > reports often start with disagreements, not bad intent towards each
> other.
> > Mediation is an effective approach to finding a mutually agreeable
> > resolution in these situations. Such resolutions create a more
> cooperative
> > environment and allow for personal growth, learning from mistakes.
> > Mediators should be hired and board members offered mediator training to
> > support this path.
> > - When necessary, only the minimal sanctions should be applied that
> prevent
> > the reported behaviour, to reduce the abuse potential of blocking.
> Partial
> > blocks was a great step in this direction: typical conduct issues should
> be
> > addressed early on with minor sanctions, not after years of misconduct,
> > when a ban becomes warranted. Bans and project-wide blocks should only be
> > used after numerous escalations and repeated sanctions, or in clear-cut
> > cases of extreme misconduct.
> >
> > Dispute resolution is difficult and often requires effort from all
> parties.
> > The above approaches are unusual compared to the traditional handling of
> > disputes, which often results in one-sided sanctioning of the party with
> > less support from the community. However, adopting new ways of dispute
> > resolution is necessary to create an inclusive community, where editors
> are
> > treated equally and fairly, regardless of their status.
> >
> > These are just superficial thoughts, which I'll detail in the second
> phase.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aron (Demian)
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