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On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:42 PM James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Was discussed here > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Revenue_Streams/1 > > and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Revenue_Streams/1 > > James > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Yair Rand <yyairr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The strategy recommendations include the text: "Explore fees or >> sustainability models for enterprise-scale commercial reusers, taking care >> to avoid revenue dependencies or other undue external influence in product >> design and development. / Develop appropriate safeguards to ensure >> continued free, unrestricted access for non-commercial, research, and >> small >> to moderate commercial use." Earlier versions elaborate somewhat, and >> there >> were considerable reservations expressed about the idea during the >> process. >> >> It is quite concerning. >> >> -- Yair Rand >> >> בתאריך יום א׳, 14 ביוני 2020 ב-14:33 מאת Amir Sarabadani < >> ladsgr...@gmail.com>: >> >> > Hello, >> > Today I stumbled upon this public phabricator ticket [1] created by >> someone >> > from WMF starting with: >> > "My team is creating bi-weekly HTML Dumps for all of the wikis, except >> for >> > wikidata as part of the paid API project." >> > >> > I have so many questions: >> > - What is the "paid API" project? Are we planning to make money out of >> our >> > API? Now are we selling our dumps? >> > - If so, why is this not communicated before? Why are we kept in the >> dark? >> > - Does the board know and approve it? >> > - How is this going to align with our core values like openness and >> > transparency? >> > - The ticket implicitly says these are going to be stored on AWS ("S3 >> > bucket"). Is this thought through? Specially the ethical problems of >> > feeding Jeff Bezos' empire? (If you have seen this episode of Hasan >> > Minhaj's on ethical issues of using AWS [2]). Why can't we do/host this >> on >> > Wikimedia infrastructure? Has this been evaluated? >> > - Why is the community not consulted about this? >> > >> > Maybe I missed announcements, consultations or anything, forgive me for >> my >> > ignorance. Any pointers is enough. I also understand diversifying our >> > revenue is a good tool for rainy days but a consultation with the >> community >> > wouldn't be too bad. >> > >> > [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254275 >> > [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5maXvZ5fyQY >> > >> > Best >> > -- >> > Amir (he/him) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
