Both of these seem like a fantastic way to support your intrinsic biases.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates/Table
- this supports your language or editor start date bias. Since you are
limited to ordering by name/username/region/languages/wiki/editor since.
https://krehel.sk/Candidates_Drafting_Committee_Movement_Charter_Statements/
- this seems to support selected question answers (from where?) and
encourages you to vote based on other people's views that decide on
their rankings (which aren't publicly available)? (Try ordering by Q2 -
or looking up where Q6 was posted).
We need better tools to help voters. Neither of these tools do that.
Thanks,
Mike
On 15/10/21 22:32:15, Andrew Lih wrote:
To echo Risker, I'd encourage the use of more advanced tools by voters.
On meta, I've pointed to the two tools that hopefully help:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections#Tools_for_examining_candidates
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections#Tools_for_examining_candidates>
The links point to:
- A table of all the factual information supplied by the candidates in a
wiki table, in which each column is sortable.
- A browsable interface to all the compass questions and responses,
providing much better candidate comparisons. An issue Adam brought up is
that there may not be a good understanding of the variance in the
answers of candidates. For that reason, this tool is valuable in showing
that the following questions had the most diverse responses and are
likely to be the most useful for voters to examine directly.
6 - limit the role of WMF to "keep the servers running"
11 - democratic governance structure
20 - new forms of knowledge representation
24 - regional elections
27 - "counter-voice"
45 - "percentage of movement money" to be allocated
92 - ratification from all
I'd encourage voters to experiment with these tools.
-Andrew
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM Risker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Adam, you may find the tool discussed here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Candidates_Compass:_One_statement,_all_answers>
to be helpful. It is created by one of the candidates, is based on
the information submitted by candidates for the election compass,
and is quite visual. (Disclosure: I am also a candidate.)
I'd also suggest that the written answers illustrate the differences
between candidates a little more specifically than the general
five-point compass. Perhaps, also, part of the reason that there's
some consensus amongst candidates (at least on the surface) is that
they could be representative of a pretty broad consensus throughout
the global community on some points.
Risker/Anne
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 09:26, Adam Wight <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:02 PM Kaarel Vaidla
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Additionally, we are piloting a so-called “Election Compass
<https://mcdc-election-compass.toolforge.org/>” for this
election. Click yourself through the tool and respond to the
19 statements, and you will see which candidate is closest
to you!
Hi, thank you for facilitating this process and for sharing the
interesting "election compass" experiment. After trying the
tool, I urge you to take it offline. Its algorithm is opaque,
and in my opinion very unlikely to give a helpful result. It's
explicitly meant to influence how we vote, but without us having
done any validation of what it's actually calculating. If you
want to test this tool, you could position it as an "exit poll",
to compare the tool's results with how each person actually
voted, or you could turn off the "alignment" scoring.
My suspicions started with the fact that I answered "strongly
support" or "support" to almost every question, which suggests
that the axes were not chosen in a way that differentiates
between the candidates. Instead, it seems like it's going to
amplify tiny differences like "strongly" vs "support"—is this true?
Was the tool analyzed with this sort of concern in mind? Are
there reasons to believe that the "alignment" scores are
meaningful in our scenario?
Kind regards,
Adam Wight
[[mw:User:Adamw]]
Writing in my volunteer capacity.
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