Hi. Just a small factual update:
In the presented list of issues there is: "Allegedly AffCom informed representatives of WUG WMSVK that it was me who canceled the proposed mediation about WUG WMSVK's long-term bylaws violations (while it is false - I haven't cancelled it) and AffCom never ever confirmed to me whether it really provided this false information (to my best Knowledge it was AffCom (or maybe someone who ordered it to AffCom?) who canceled the mediation; but AffCom never clarified it to me even after my explicit requests)" Thanks to Matej Grochal, the Chair of WUG WMSVK, who has shed light on this topic! He confirmed that AffCom did **not** make this untruthful communication to WUG WMSVK (as he had stated before). Rather, Grochal / WMSVK have connected some data points in a wrong way, came to wrong conclusion and presented it as a clear truth about someone else behaviour. Although, it would be definitely helpful if AffCom would clearly stated it when I have asked it. So we could move forward sooner and not waste time, effort and energy asking AffCom for answer and WUG WMSVK for proof. Regards KuboF Hromoslav (Michal Matúšov) po 25. 10. 2021 o 12:32 Michal Matúšov <[email protected]> napísal(a): > Dear Mehman (and Wikimedia folks in copy for transparency), > > I am contacting you as you are currently the highest responsible person > (Vice-Chair) in the Affiliations Committee. > > As Manavpreet Kaur (current AffCom's Staff Liaison) is candidating for > a Movement Charter Drafting Committee, and AffCom is for (at least) months > showing issues about its work, which I consider that would be detrimental > for the work of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee if they would be > present there, and it is unclear what it Manavpreet's role in these > AffCom's issues, I ask you to publicly respond to the questions below. (I > have already asked Manavpreet to respond them but she have stated that she > won't be able to respond them [1] [2]) > > (I present the questions first and the context below, so it is easier for > low-involved folks to get the core part) > > *Questions:* > > > 1. *Do you personally consider the AffCom's happenings presented below > to be in line with Wikimedia Foundation Guiding Principles > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Guiding_Principles> > (especially Transparency and Accountability)?* > 1. *If not, has Manavpreet done already something to rectify > AffCom's activity to be in full alignment with them? What > has Manavpreet done?* > 2. *If yes, please briefly clarify how (in your opinion) they are > showing Transparency and Accountability.* > 2. *What is Manavpreet's role in the AffCom's happenings presented > below?* (have Manavpreet supported / encouraged / decided them? or > have Manavpreet tried to prevent them / discourage them? or have Manavpreet > just fully neutraly executed decisions that leaded to them? have Manavpreet > presented objections that the decisions are against Wikimedia Foundation > Guiding Principles or similar rules / recommendations / ...? or something > else? please be concrete) > 3. As much of the presented cases show AffCom's issues about clear, > proactive communication, *do you consider Manavpreet to be capable > enough to clearly, proactively, helpfully communicate in the high > responsibility role of Movement Charter Drafting Committee member?* > 1. *If it is not Manavpreet who is the source of AffCom's > communication issues, who is?* > 4. *Do you believe that Manavpreet will not "import" AffCom-like > issues to the Movement Charter Drafting Committee? If yes, on what basis?* > > > *Context:* > > I am in contact with Manavpreet mostly because of her role of Staff > Liaison of Affiliations Committee > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> (AffCom), which > relates with my roles of (ex)Chair of some Wikimedia Affiliations. While > AffCom have for years reputation of slowresponsedness, it was understanable > because of its structure (which, in turn, is understanable because of its > high responsibilities) and was rather only a little anoyance, not a big > deal. But that have changed (for worse) at least several months ago and > AffCom is still very reluctant to provide more information about it. > Several specific cases for ilustration: > > - AffCom put on hold the recognition of User Group Esperanto and Free > Knowledge > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Esperanto_kaj_Libera_Scio> > as > a Thematic Organisation and informed the UG only reactively (after my > question), after unreasonably long time (after the expected deadline for > recognition) and provided false information as the reason; even after > several messages AffCom haven't revealed the requested information about > the pausing > - In February 2021, Meta admins deferred to AffCom the determination > of some specific hard Requests for deletion > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_deletion/Archives/2020#Wikimedians_of_Slovakia's_Annual_Report_2018> > with > intention to implement AffCom's determination; despite Manavpreet (in > her official WMF role) have considered it as a priority concern > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/21238644>, Affcom have > not provided its determination to Meta admins even after 7 months (as > stated by 3 Meta admins - 2 of them confirming publicly: Xaosflux > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/21998260> and Camouflaged > Mirage <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/22000846> (by > their alternative account)) > - AffCom was for several months totally unresponsive about proposed > recommendations to make WUG Wikimedians of Slovakia > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Slovakia> to obey its > User Group Agreement > - For quite long time AffCom have been requiring (that time not yet a > WUG) Wikimedians of Slovakia > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Slovakia> (WUG WMSVK) > to change its legal name to be recognized as a WM User Group, what blocked > the recognition for more than year, but suddenly after the recognition , > AffCom agreed to accept Wikimedians of Slovakia > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Slovakia>'s prefered > official name which was for long time totaly unaccepted by AffCom > - Allegedly AffCom informed representatives of WUG WMSVK that it was > me who canceled the proposed mediation about WUG WMSVK's long-term bylaws > violations (while it is false - I haven't cancelled it) and AffCom never > ever confirmed to me whether it really provided this false information (to > my best Knowledge it was AffCom (or maybe someone who ordered it to > AffCom?) who canceled the mediation; but AffCom never clarified it to me > even after my explicit requests) > - AffCom is for months in silence about various questions and > proposals about WUG WMSVK for whom is AffCom fully responsible since > December 2020 > - As AffCom in December 2020 took full responsibility for WUG WMSVK, > AffCom is fully reponsible for: > - WUG WMSVK falsely publicly presents the meeting on March 2019 as > a valid Meeting of General Assembly > > <http://wikimedia.sk//wp-content/uploads/2019/07/WMSK-VZ-20190309-ZAP.pdf> > despite > it clearly violates WUG WMSVK's bylaw and several WUG WMSVK's board > members > have already stated it, also publicly > - It is still not clear whether WUG WMSVK's meeting in March 2021 > was a valid Meeting of General Assembly, as evidence suggest it was not, > despite AffCom being repeatedly warned in advance about this possibility > - WMF is publicly hosting documents produced by WUG WMSVK that > contain false, defamatory information about myself (en > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Slovakia/Reports/2018/en> > , sk > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Slovakia/Reports/2018/sk>) > despite Manavpreet assurance that WUG WMSVK will rectify them > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/21238644> > - WUG WMSVK is no longer publicly presenting its *Annual plans* > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Slovakia/Annual_agendas> > despite > its tradition of presenting them publicly, and is not presenting > publicly > its *Financial reports* and *Annual Budgets* despite the tradition > of publicly presenting such documents and having the capacity to create > at > least *Annual budget* since at least 2018. All of these 3 documents > are required to be prepared every year by WMSVK's Board. > > I understand that Manavpreet personally is not an AffCom and not a voting > member. At the same time, I understand that Manavpreet is a paid staff > member whose job is liaisoning for AffCom and is often in contact with at > least some affiliations and proposed affiliations. So Manavpreet's > responsibility to AffCom is still present, although I do not know what is > its span. > > [1] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Manavpreet_Kaur#Your_role_in_AffCom%27s_issues_in_relation_to_your_Movement_Charter_Drafting_Committee_member_candidacy > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/22236019 > > Looking for your answers! > KuboF Hromoslav (Michal Matúšov) >
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