Yeah, although I think every user will, eventually, actually open our pages several times, although less frequently because of smarter search engines.
Vito Il giorno sab 8 gen 2022 alle ore 13:20 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Falling readers means less awareness of being able to edit, that means > less contributors, and less donations. Over the last 10 years we've put a > lot of effort and support into the basic contribution processes, but the > contributions need to shift to more of what our new audiences are expecting > from websites. With such a change there is both a need to embrace it and > to facilitate learning the skills, investing in that learning curve. > > We cant stay where we are, and we cant move forward without bringing the > community along > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 19:59, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just a couple of minutes ago I wanted to point out while chatting that >> two (shitty) singers work together because they work for the same major. A >> bunch of years ago I had to open some Google result to find such info, now >> I don't. >> >> Loss of readers is not bad in itself, it can be if there's a significant >> number of potential new editors among the readers we lose in this way >> (also, readers could affect fundraising, but I think we already make enough >> of it). Anecdotically I think new editors rather come from those who look >> for info which cannot be found in knowledge graph, but surely this requires >> a proper investigation. >> >> Vito >> >> Il giorno sab 8 gen 2022 alle ore 12:39 Francesc Fort < >> taronjasatsu...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >> >>> The slow but steady decrease in readerships is known and has been >>> identified for a long. An important niche of readership are quick answers >>> for trivia (such as "what's the capital of X country") and there are tools >>> (some of those, powered by Wikidata) working better than a classical google >>> search and clicking on the Wikipedia article. >>> >>> I mean, we talked a lot about this during Strategy. We just must find a >>> solution. >>> >>> F. >>> >>> Missatge de RonnieV <wikipe...@ronaldvelgersdijk.nl> del dia ds., 8 de >>> gen. 2022 a les 10:03: >>> >>>> Could there something be wrong with the presentation? >>>> >>>> The total number of edits at the English Wikipedia should have dropped >>>> 21,23% https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org >>>> <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org]> >>>> The numbers at >>>> https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org/contributing/edits/normal|table|2-year|~total|monthly >>>> do show 63.8M edits in 2021 and only 61.5M in 2020. >>>> >>>> Do I misinterpret the graph? >>>> --- >>>> Met vriendelijke groet, >>>> >>>> RonnieV >>>> >>>> >>>> Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga schreef op 2022-01-07 18:51: >>>> >>>> There's another option: the 2020 pandemic lockdowns made a huge peak on >>>> views, so year on year, 2021 has worse results. >>>> >>>> 2022(e)ko urt. 7(a) 18:41 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Anders >>>> Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se>): >>>> >>>> When I look at statistics for mature wikipedias: en, de pl, nl they all >>>> show a decrease of views of 13-15% in last 12 months from a year ago, >>>> and number of active editors down 10- 20 % (with exception of en). >>>> >>>> Has this been analysed somewhere, are we losing our readers and >>>> contributors or is it mostly Google that access our info "smarter" not >>>> creating "views" >>>> >>>> Anders >>>> >>>> https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org >>>> >>>> https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org >>>> >>>> https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org >>>> >>>> https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/pl.wikipedia.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/66FNJZYIDINNHVOBRBWQ7WCBD6EHUMLC/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/AIZF4GBG63E6PS3IQOOYLY6QUKZL526H/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/MZT6AWY7DN4NZQ72V2HID6TABKV4MZBZ/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/7INJRMVJE3YXJT3T3GFQL5VLGLNWFMSV/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/VGAQD6YDBFG2KSSIJN6WL434RHGO7TUT/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > GN. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/TVX32GYR3VIHD6YMULAQS45UQAEJJ3US/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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