mk0705...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 4, 2023, 1:01 PM Steven Walling <steven.wall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:47 PM Gergő Tisza <gti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to give a sense of scale: OpenAI started with a $1 billion donation, >> got another $1B as investment, and is now getting a larger investment from >> Microsoft (undisclosed but rumored to be $10B). Assuming they spent most of >> their previous funding, which seems likely, their operational costs are in >> the ballpark of $300 million per year. The idea that the WMF could just >> choose to create conversational software of a similar quality if it wanted >> seems detached from reality to me. >> > > Without spending billions on LLM development to aim for a > conversational chatbot trying to pass a Turing test, we could definitely > try to catch up to the state of the art in search results. Our search > currently does a pretty bad job (in terms of recall especially). Today's > featured article in English is the Hot Chip album "Made in the Dark", and > if I enter anything but the exact article title the typeahead results are > woefully incomplete or wrong. If I ask an actual question, good luck. > > Google is feeling vulnerable to OpenAI here in part because everyone can > see that their results are often full of low quality junk created for SEO, > while ChatGPT just gives a concise answer right there. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menu_(2022_film) is one of the top > viewed English articles. If I search "The Menu reviews" the Google results > are noisy and not so great. ChatGPT actually gives you nothing relevant > because it doesn't know anything from 2022. If we could just manage to > display the three sentence snippet of our article about the critical > response section of the article, it would be awesome. It's too bad that the > whole "knowledge engine" debacle poisoned the well when it comes to a > Wikipedia search engine, because we could definitely do a lot to learn from > what people like about ChatGPT and apply to Wikipedia search. > > _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/6OBPB7WNHKJQXXIBCK73SDXLE3DMGNMY/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/2O5USM4UIGYO6Y4LAD26SGM5AFMHYQFP/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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