Hoi, When the numbers drop, there is a need for another public. For me YouTube is an inspiration to work on Wikidata information.. I blogged about how it can gain us a different public..
https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2026/06/watching-informative-youtubes-with.html Thanks, On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 at 09:08, Christophe Henner via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi this is my irregular email to try to get more widespread reactions and > engagement and discussion from volunteers to board of trustees. > > On global mobile traffic, after a -6.83% between May 2025 and May 2024, > we're shattering records with a nice -18.27% between 2026 and 2025. > > Oh yes, data may be dirty. So let's say it's even half of that it's still > a -10%. > > "Christophe why are you not using Desktop data": historically desktop data > has proven quite unreliable for many reasons (and this week the chinese > wikipedia desktop outburst is surprising and makes desktop data hard to > read (on top of other outbursts). > > So when we start playing with the -10% to 20% year over year, shall we > start mobilizing? Or we just all grab mojitos and virgin mojitos and look > at the collapse? > > Oh hey if it wasn't clear before, the one body that can muster ressources > to mobilize our movement is the board of trustees. > Every day we are not mobilizing is your decision. > Every day you are not engaging publicly in those decision is your decision. > Every day... I could make a long list you get the idea. > > Right now the legacy you're building is a -20% trend leading to collapse > legacy. > > I know this is hard to read, I know this may trigger a defensive reaction. > But time for tiptoeing around topics and problems is long gone. We need > swift and radical and unifying actions. If we are to go through this > situation we need collective action not inaction. > > -18.27% YoY on mobile : > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/all-projects/reading/total-page-views/normal|bar|2021-11-07~2026-06-05|(access)~mobile-app*mobile-web+agent~user|monthly > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/all-projects/reading/total-page-views/normal%7Cbar%7C2021-11-07~2026-06-05%7C(access)~mobile-app*mobile-web+agent~user%7Cmonthly> > > -- > Christophe > > > On Tue, 5 May 2026 at 10:26, Tomasz Ganicz via Wikimedia-l < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> This is what almost all universities around the world are doing but in >> professional way.The issue is that regular teaching needs regular time >> commitment of qualified teachers which is hard to organize on voluntary >> model. Also in order to maintain minimal quality of teaching you need a >> system of checking teachers qualifications and skills. >> >> Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz >> http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek >> http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ >> >> >> pon., 4 maj 2026, 15:22 użytkownik Felipe Schenone via Wikimedia-l < >> [email protected]> napisał: >> >>> Hi! As we know, Wikimedia's mission isn't to build an encyclopedia >>> (that's Wikipedia's mission) but rather "a world in which every single >>> human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge". Perhaps the new >>> landscape will slowly strip Wikipedia of its leading role in the Wikimedia >>> movement, and perhaps (hopefully) some other project will take over. I >>> agree with Chris in that our core strength is our community, and I also >>> agree with James in that writing tertiary sources is becoming outdated. How >>> can we keep striving for our vision, while making the most of our strength >>> (the community) but through a project that doesn't involve writing tertiary >>> sources? >>> >>> Here's an idea: Wikiversity could become so much more than what it >>> currently is. It could become a real "online university", multilingual and >>> global, where real-time courses with real humans are taught (as well as the >>> asynchronous courses that already exist today). And not just courses, but >>> eventually entire university programs that award real degrees. I'm sure our >>> community is filled with excellent teachers, academics and experts that >>> could lead such courses in many languages, as well as many others that >>> could support them in other ways (answering questions, preparing reading >>> material, exercises, exams, etc). We'd need to develop and integrate some >>> software like Zoom or Meet, and much more, of course, but that's beyond the >>> point, as we could start with existing software now, and develop better >>> tools as we go along. Humans teaching humans, would be a good summary of >>> the idea. >>> >>> I could digress for a while, but I might be delusional, so I'll stop >>> here. However, if anyone supports or would like to talk, I'd be happy to >>> continue on-wiki (User:Sophivorus). Cheers! >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 7:47 AM AcDc CluvR via Wikimedia-l < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Christophe. Tnx for writing this! I used to be member of the board, >>>> chapter, moderator, arbitration committee ... User Dolledre on some wiki's, >>>> mostly nl.wiki. In my opinion crawling 'our' data should not be so darn >>>> easy for AI models. Willing to block them by hand if they keep >>>> hallucinating on 'our' data. Interrogating like 4 of them daily, mainly on >>>> how they work. Do know how to lead them towards total confusion. Even if >>>> Wikipedia could develop the best AI code in the world, we would still be >>>> sharing it. It's the paradox to sweat out till humanity is either >>>> hallucinating as a whole either returning till mental sanity. Kind regards. >>>> D. PS: Want a free image of a fox eating a banana in my kitchen? ;-) >>>> >>>> Op za 10 jan 2026 om 00:41 schreef Christophe Henner < >>>> [email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I struggled with the object, the most honest one would be "Last exit >>>>> before irrelevance" but that would be a bit violent. >>>>> >>>>> So, Wikipedia turns 25 next week. I've been here for over twenty of >>>>> those years, including stints chairing Wikimedia France and the Foundation >>>>> Board. And honestly? I'm worried. Scared to be honnest. >>>>> >>>>> Over the last years, I've been regularly crunching data and sharing on >>>>> different channels my worries. But in the last few weeks I decided to make >>>>> a much more structured "essay" of my findings >>>>> >>>>> Since 2016, the internet nearly doubled in size. >>>>> >>>>> Our page views? Down. New editor sign-ups? Down 36%. >>>>> >>>>> The people keeping this thing running are working harder than ever, >>>>> but there are fewer of them every year. >>>>> >>>>> I wrote it all up: the numbers, what I think went wrong, what I think >>>>> we need to do about it. Fair warning: it's long, it's opinionated, and >>>>> some >>>>> of it will probably make you mad. >>>>> >>>>> *Here it is: *https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Schiste/what-now >>>>> >>>>> I'm not trying to be doom and gloom for the sake of it. I genuinely >>>>> believe we have maybe two years to make some hard calls about AI, about >>>>> money, about who we're actually serving. After that, the window closes and >>>>> we become irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> Could be wrong. Hope I am. But I'd rather we have this argument now >>>>> than wish we had later. Well I'd rather we had this argument two or four >>>>> years ago, but now we will make do. >>>>> >>>>> Read it, tell me where I'm off base. Let's argue and debate. That's >>>>> what talk pages are for, right? >>>>> >>>>> PS: Foundation board mailing list is bcc'ed, change cannot happen >>>>> without their commitment. And fast. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christophe >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>>> guidelines at: >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>>> Public archives at >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/X3SQ2WA7QF2XS56XV2EOPDPUZ6UQPCR4/ >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/TYXFRDYSUH3WUYM5P4MADNQI42NZXWTX/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/UD4JDQEN5P24GA7DYIWMB5NKVO5MCO2Y/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/DIGXAKYMSR56ETXSHKSG6CIONMEM56RU/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/WJ6VRJAZTRYTPPN44K2NSHBO5WSWLGBF/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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