Aren't we uncached here anyway? Special pages and all.

-Chad
On Aug 26, 2015 3:48 PM, "Kevin Smith" <ksm...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> We could make the new experience equally uncomfortable for both A and B,
> by uncaching the results in both cases. Not ideal, but at least would be
> apples to apples.
>
>
>
> Kevin Smith
> Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Max Semenik <maxsem.w...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We couldn't come up with a solution when discussing this with Erik, hence
>> this thread.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Dan Garry <dga...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice catch Max. Thanks for reporting it. Do you have any suggestions for
>>> how we could alleviate this issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On 26 August 2015 at 13:30, Max Semenik <maxsem.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While doing CR for
>>>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/232896/3/modules/ext.wikimediaEvents.search.js
>>>> I came to have serious doubts about this approach.
>>>>
>>>> In brief, it attempts to track user satisfaction with search results by
>>>> measuring how long do people stay on pages. It does that by appending
>>>> fromsearch=1 to links for 0.5% of users. However, this results in page
>>>> views being uncached and thus increasing HTML load time by a factor of 4-5
>>>> and, consequentially, kicking even short pages' first paint outside of
>>>> comfort zone of 1 second - and that's measured from the office, with ping
>>>> of 2-3 ms to ulsfo. My concern here is that as a result we're trying to
>>>> measure the very metric we're screwing with, resulting in experiment being
>>>> inaccurate.
>>>>
>>>> Can we come up with a way of measurement that's less intrusive or alter
>>>> the requirements of the experiment?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Garry
>>> Lead Product Manager, Discovery
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
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>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])
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