Agreed with Gnangarra - I think if we approach them on agreeable terms and
recognise that they have needs too that need to be factored in, and that we
can fill them in on what we need and work out how that can be accommodated
as well, then everyone can gain from it. The successful approaches are
2009/7/11 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>
> Opening communication between the Australian Institutions and wiki world is
> what GLAM is for, at the extreme if such an issue was to arise with an
> Australian Institution we would be able to resolve the concerns without
> legal threats. GLAM is about us working together and understand each others
> needs and rights so that such an issue should never arise, to encourage this
> we also need more Wiki people to attend, thanks to some sponsors Wikimedia
> Australia has just announced an offer bursaries to assist people in
> GLAM isnt a soapbox in the middle of Hyde Park for people to preach US law
> to UK institutions and such soapboxing while occassionally necessary it isnt
> productive when everybody is there to better understand each others needs.
> I'd also note the many UK Institutions have always maintained that the US
> Bridgeman v. Corel decision isnt reasonable and that if one wishes to see
> these works they should do so at the institution that owns them. Also if one
> wishes to display them outside the institution given the expenses involve in
> obtaining and preserving these works they should have the right to some form
> of compensation.
> 2009/7/11 private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com>
> well just for the record, I hope we can do better than referring to an
>> action clearly intended (however misguided) to protect the work of a
>> rather venerable cultural institution as 'batshit insane' :-) - I
>> rather think it runs the risk of making us seem a bit radical and
>> unfriendly - not my perception of what GLAM is all about.
>> This bit though "So the thing is really: how to convince museums and
>> galleries to open
>> up, use us for free publicity and spreading their good name" -
>> absolutely spot on... :-)
>> now play nice.
>> On 7/11/09, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 11/07/2009, private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> This is rather important + serious stuff which relates to the 'GLAM'
>> >> sector
>> >> - hopefully we'll be leading the way in ensuring good communication may
>> >> help
>> >> resolve problems like this;
>> >> (basically a Commons user has received a legal letter relating to
>> >> of
>> >> photographs of gallery items)
>> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat,
>> > It doesn't help that the NPG's actions (a UK org threatening a US
>> > citizen with legal action over actions that are unambiguously not a
>> > copyright violation of any sort in US law) are, how do I put this,
>> > FRANKLY INSANE.
>> > I made a quick summary blog post:
>> > http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2009/07/11/sue-and-be-damned/
>> > Note that another notable UK museum, the V&A, took the opposite tack:
>> > open their collections, spread their name and pictures of their
>> > exhibits, reap the publicity. (The V&A is fantastic, and no photo can
>> > substitute for seeing the stuff in real life.)
>> > So the thing is really: how to convince museums and galleries to open
>> > up, use us for free publicity and spreading their good name ... and
>> > not act batshit insane like the NPG appears to be.
>> > - d.
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