That seems to be a very solid presentation, most of my teachers I have seem to be reasonably adept at being able to use Wikipedia and understand how to make sure an article is accurate and the usefulness of it as a spring board to other references.
That said, I know there are teachers out there who are incredibly anti-Wikipedia and a presentation like this could go a long way into being able to get teachers to understand what Wikipedia is and isn't. Best of luck with your project. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Craig Franklin <cr...@halo-17.net> wrote: > Okay, it looks like the the Wiki has been fixed, so here goes: > > Over the past few months, a few of us up here in Brisbane have been > developing a programme and materials to do presentations to teachers and > schools. It's been our observation that while many teachers have negative > views about Wikipedia, these can be fairly easily dispelled by standing in > front of them and talking about who we are, what we do, and putting some > misconceptions right. It's also a good way to showcase our lesser-known > projects; while most know Wikipedia, they don't know about Wiktionary and > Wikisource, even though those can be valuable resources as well. > > I've placed a PDF of the most recent presentation we did up on the chapter > site. The thumbnails don't appear to work, but if you click on the > filename > you can download a complete PDF of my Powerpoint: > > > http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Overview_Presentation_For_Sc > hools.pdf > > Our first presentation was in early April at Redcliffe State High School. > Feedback was very positive and once we sat down and talked Wiki for an > hour, > the teachers wanted to get involved with either using our content, or doing > projects which would involve working collaboratively with us. I'll sum up > the exact feedback in a future mail, but when they thought about it they > also had a lot of ideas that I think are quite exciting and I'd be > interested in going further with. > > The challenges I can see in the future is finding more places to do the > presentation (we are lucky to have a member of the chapter who is a teacher > at said school), and following up effectively and quickly on teacher ideas. > The other issue I suppose I have is that I'm only one man, I have a > fulltime > job, and generally speaking pupil-free days are the only time when we can > do > these, which limits us to a handful of events a year. This can be dealt > with by either convincing teachers and educators to come to night classes, > or training up other people who can take time off work or whatever to go > and > do the presentation. > > Anyway, feel free to have a look at the presentation slides and I'll be > happy to answer any questions you have at this stage. > > Cheers, > Craig > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah > Ewart > Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 8:50 PM > To: Wikimedia-au > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? > > Craig, please, please, please do write up on the wiki what you've been > doing. I think it's very important for the chapter's health to see > what members are achieving in their local communities. > > On 5/5/10, Craig Franklin <cr...@halo-17.net> wrote: > > Well, there's stuff going on. My little "Wikipedia in the Classroom" > > project has been boiling away pretty nicely (I really ought to update the > > page on the chapter site about that.), but it's mainly > foundation-building > > stuff that'll let us pull of bigger things in the future. > > > > > > > > And as for grants, again, the outlay for my project has been about $20 so > > far, which included my petrol to drive to the venues and to purchase some > > mints to hand out. You don't need a big fat grant to pull off something > > worthwhile. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > > [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private > > musings > > Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:30 PM > > To: Wikimedia-au > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? > > > > > > > > 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to > > engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through > > application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the > > proposed project will be run' > > > > - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try and > > get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth > > trying is a different question, I guess :-) > > > > 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and > > get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted > > out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' > > > > - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able > to > > get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions and > > activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a > > membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of > future > > grant applications etc. > > > > > > 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for > > him to be globally banned' > > > > - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call > for > > me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments > > about me personally as oppose to my posts.... however; > > > > 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests > to > > the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' > > > > - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / > expedite > > existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something happens - > I'm > > concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report card for the first > > half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) > > > > cheers, > > > > Peter, > > > > PM. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart <sarahew...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long > > term and recent "controversies" throughout WMF universe which > > culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for > > him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to > > lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts > > of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting > > potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and > > whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. > > > > I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my > > notes are up on the wiki here- > > > > http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working > > _group:_Volunteers > > > < > http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working > > _group:_Volunteers> ) > > and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made > > it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a > > preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed > > more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that > > date. > > > > Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an > > outreach conference they wanted to run because it fell through and > > didn't end up going ahead. Paying back the funds was a real headache > > for the committee (especially for Brian as the then-treasurer) and it > > took a considerable amount of time to resolve with the foundation. I > > don't want to see this happen again so I'd oppose any moves to rush > > through any ill-considered applications just to get them in before May > > 15 or that seem more orientated on getting money for the sake of it or > > for the simple stated purpose of engaging with the grant process. > > Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to > > engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through > > application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the > > proposed project will be run. If we have to pay back another grant, > > it's going to reflect very poorly on the chapter so this isn't > > something that should just be slapped together at the last minute. > > > > I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and > > get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted > > out as carefully as possible before submitting applications. > > > > > > > > On 5/5/10, Andrew <orderinchao...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'll be straight up and state I'm not going to support this, for a > variety > >> of reasons. > >> > >> Firstly, I don't think our chapter is capable of producing a grant > >> application to the standard WMF require for such a big area (education) > in > >> 10 days that addresses all the things WMF expect us to address. > >> > >> Secondly, this appears to be trying to reinvent the wheel. Craig's > project > >> up in Brisbane is already making significant advances, at least three > > other > >> chapter members have made contacts with (or have been contacted by) > >> educational departments and representative associations, and completed > >> resources already in use in schools exist in other languages from other > >> chapters - I'm presently trying to secure translations of these on > behalf > > of > >> the chapter. Without any attempt to coordinate the various approaches, > > we're > >> not only less effective but also give the outward appearance of being > >> disorganised to the various educational bodies involved. > >> > >> Thirdly, given your recent conflict with, among other people, Jimbo > Wales > >> and various concerns about past occasions when you have undertaken > chapter > >> work (in particular the Dictionary of Sydney episode), I do not think > you > >> personally should be making any outward representation of our chapter > and, > >> if the grant were to be approved, I think someone else should lead it. > >> > >> kindest regards > >> Andrew > >> > >> On 5 May 2010 11:46, private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> G'day all, > >>> > >>> does the chapter have any grants proposals heading in this year? > >>> > >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index > >>> > >>> Do we have any structure for creating / supporting a chapter grant like > >>> this? > >>> > >>> I have a few ideas and opportunities - for wiki use in education, > >>> hopefully > >>> in partnership with nsw dep. of ed. - if I write something up in the > next > >>> week or so, I suppose we could discuss it on our wiki, and forward it > to > >>> the > >>> grants page linked above for consideration if appropriate? > >>> > >>> I think it's important for a functioning healthy chapter to try to > engage > >>> with processes like this, so if you too have any ideas or > opportunities, > >>> please do pipe up, and let's work on them on the wiki, and get them > going > >>> :-) > >>> > >>> cheers, > >>> > >>> Peter, > >>> PM. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >>> Wikimediaauemail@example.com > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > > Wikimediaaufirstname.lastname@example.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaauemail@example.com > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaaufirstname.lastname@example.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >
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