Matt, you should request a small grant for your photography as well. There's more info on the wiki - http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Small_grants
On 5/5/10, Matt inbgn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Probably not the place for this but since you have brought the topic up ... > > I have about 50-60 photos from Temora taken last weekend that are almost > ready to upload. Some beautiful churches and public buildings there. These > go with the ones from Ariah Park (a very attractive town), Beckom, Mirrool > (Home of the Silo Kick!) and Barmedman already uploaded and some of > Ardlethan and Morundah yet to upload. > > Hay, Carrathool, Goolgowi (maybe Hillston) etc. are on the list for a future > weekend (when sunny weather permits). > > Matt > > On 5 May 2010 20:55, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I just signed up to this mail list yesterday (didn't know it had existed >> until yesterday). >> >> I had photographed most of the Top End of the NT but lost 80% >> (unrecoverable) of my photos during the move down south. >> >> When I returned back to NSW my aim was to cover as much cities, suburbs, >> towns, villages and locality not just in NSW but other states and >> territories. >> >> Locations in my local (within 15km) area have been covered by walking or >> riding a push bike (yes it is possible) and other locations used coaches >> (as I don't have a car nor license [I'll get one someday]) which has meant >> I've needed to stay overnight and I pay out of my own pocket (My most >> recent Canberra trip cost me $50 [return coach ticket], $120 for overnight >> accommodation and $8.80 for an ACTION off-peak bus ticket [two days]) and >> I >> plan the places to photograph and map them but even then you only cover >> 20% >> in a day. >> >> In the next few weeks (sometime in June) I will be visiting Point Cook and >> then it will be back to Canberra (date is yet to be set) but I'm hoping to >> do a two or three day trip to Albury/Wodonga and Temora this year. >> >> There are so many importance and historic places (not just buildings, >> statues, trees ect) that have only a few photographs or none at all over >> Australia and the earthquake in Kalgoorlie-Boulder just proves that they >> can be lost forever. Maybe we should look at forming groups to cover >> remote >> areas and in areas no so remote area. I would even put out the challenge >> to >> cover some areas by public transport and push bikes. ;) >> >> Robert >> >> On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:08:03 +0800, Andrew <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I'd like to pitch an idea regarding a possible grant application. >> > >> > One of the interesting things that came up in Berlin (both Sarah and I >> > attended the Outreach Case Studies session where this was discussed) was >> > the >> > Wikiexpedition done by the Polish Wikipedia - I understand the Czechs >> also >> > undertook a similar thing and got a grant for it (which included petrol, >> > accommodation and buying a camera), and I seem to remember Estonia and a >> > few >> > others talking along similar lines. >> > >> > I was talking with a WA volunteer today and one issue we have is that >> some >> > areas of our great country are hopelessly under-covered. Speaking from a >> WA >> > point of view, the Wheatbelt region immediately comes to mind, but I'm >> sure >> > anyone reading this can think of somewhere nearby (or at least within >> > reach) >> > which falls into this category. In the past, despite my >> non-car-ownership, >> > I've done what I can to address this, and two other Wikimedians, >> Mattinbgn >> > and Bidgee (Robert), have done tremendous work in getting photos of >> things >> > like town halls and other monuments in Victoria to illustrate our >> articles >> > and build up Commons. That shows what *individuals* can do with an >> > appropriate plan. >> > >> > The Wikiexpedition was basically a bunch of volunteers with cars >> (15-20?) >> > who coordinated and were driving around taking photographs of basically >> > anything that was of importance or interest. Being done over a set time >> > with >> > a specific deadline for completing the photo runs and uploading them to >> > Commons maximised the value of the exercise. Having so many people >> > available >> > made it so much better than just having one, as they could split up and >> do >> > different things in the same town, for instance, or one could take the >> > backroads and another could take the main road. The Polish dealt a lot >> with >> > local businesses, municipalities and tourist offices along the way so >> were >> > able to promote the cause somewhat as well to an entirely unexpected >> > audience. >> > >> > Achievable, tick. Clear scope and measurable end points, tick. Engages >> the >> > membership, tick. Promotes Wikimedia, tick. Meets our statement of >> purpose >> > and the goals of WMF, tick. >> > >> > OK, it's a bit unconventional, but what do others think? >> > >> > >> > On 5 May 2010 17:30, private musings <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to >> >> >> >> engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through >> >> application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the >> >> proposed project will be run' >> >> - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try >> and >> >> get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth >> >> trying is a different question, I guess :-) >> >> 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and >> >> >> >> get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted >> >> out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' >> >> - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able >> >> to >> >> get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions >> and >> >> activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a >> >> membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of >> >> future >> >> grant applications etc. >> >> >> >> 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for >> >> him to be globally banned' >> >> - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call >> >> for >> >> me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments >> >> about me personally as oppose to my posts.... however; >> >> 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests >> >> to >> >> the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' >> >> - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / >> >> expedite existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something >> >> happens - I'm concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report >> card >> >> for >> >> the first half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) >> >> cheers, >> >> Peter, >> >> PM. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long >> >>> term and recent "controversies" throughout WMF universe which >> >>> culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for >> >>> him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to >> >>> lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts >> >>> of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting >> >>> potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and >> >>> whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. >> >>> >> >>> I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my >> >>> notes are up on the wiki here- >> >>> >> >>> >> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working_group:_Volunteers >> >>> ) >> >>> and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made >> >>> it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a >> >>> preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed >> >>> more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that >> >>> date. >> >>> >> >>> Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an >> >>> outreach conference they wanted to run because it fell through and >> >>> didn't end up going ahead. Paying back the funds was a real headache >> >>> for the committee (especially for Brian as the then-treasurer) and it >> >>> took a considerable amount of time to resolve with the foundation. I >> >>> don't want to see this happen again so I'd oppose any moves to rush >> >>> through any ill-considered applications just to get them in before May >> >>> 15 or that seem more orientated on getting money for the sake of it or >> >>> for the simple stated purpose of engaging with the grant process. >> >>> Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to >> >>> engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through >> >>> application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the >> >>> proposed project will be run. If we have to pay back another grant, >> >>> it's going to reflect very poorly on the chapter so this isn't >> >>> something that should just be slapped together at the last minute. >> >>> >> >>> I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and >> >>> get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted >> >>> out as carefully as possible before submitting applications. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 5/5/10, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > Hi, >> >>> > >> >>> > I'll be straight up and state I'm not going to support this, for a >> >>> variety >> >>> > of reasons. >> >>> > >> >>> > Firstly, I don't think our chapter is capable of producing a grant >> >>> > application to the standard WMF require for such a big area >> >>> > (education) >> >>> in >> >>> > 10 days that addresses all the things WMF expect us to address. >> >>> > >> >>> > Secondly, this appears to be trying to reinvent the wheel. Craig's >> >>> project >> >>> > up in Brisbane is already making significant advances, at least >> three >> >>> other >> >>> > chapter members have made contacts with (or have been contacted by) >> >>> > educational departments and representative associations, and >> completed >> >>> > resources already in use in schools exist in other languages from >> >>> > other >> >>> > chapters - I'm presently trying to secure translations of these on >> >>> behalf of >> >>> > the chapter. Without any attempt to coordinate the various >> approaches, >> >>> we're >> >>> > not only less effective but also give the outward appearance of >> being >> >>> > disorganised to the various educational bodies involved. >> >>> > >> >>> > Thirdly, given your recent conflict with, among other people, Jimbo >> >>> Wales >> >>> > and various concerns about past occasions when you have undertaken >> >>> chapter >> >>> > work (in particular the Dictionary of Sydney episode), I do not >> think >> >>> you >> >>> > personally should be making any outward representation of our >> chapter >> >>> and, >> >>> > if the grant were to be approved, I think someone else should lead >> it. >> >>> > >> >>> > kindest regards >> >>> > Andrew >> >>> > >> >>> > On 5 May 2010 11:46, private musings <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> G'day all, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> does the chapter have any grants proposals heading in this year? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Do we have any structure for creating / supporting a chapter grant >> >>> >> like >> >>> >> this? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I have a few ideas and opportunities - for wiki use in education, >> >>> >> hopefully >> >>> >> in partnership with nsw dep. of ed. - if I write something up in >> the >> >>> next >> >>> >> week or so, I suppose we could discuss it on our wiki, and forward >> it >> >>> to >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> grants page linked above for consideration if appropriate? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I think it's important for a functioning healthy chapter to try to >> >>> engage >> >>> >> with processes like this, so if you too have any ideas or >> >>> opportunities, >> >>> >> please do pipe up, and let's work on them on the wiki, and get them >> >>> going >> >>> >> :-) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> cheers, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Peter, >> >>> >> PM. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> >>> >> [email protected] >> >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaau-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
