Cuidado com o que? seja claro ou resigne-se ao silêncio. Melhor direcionar suas "dicas" em off para quem for de direito e poupar a lista de seus faniquitos.
Otavio Em 25 de janeiro de 2012 23:21, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Porque a carapuça serviu? > E não é uma ameaça, estou falando para terem cuidado, pelas respostas > off que eu recebi é só isso. > > Paranoia ta foda aqui > > On Jan 25, 1:30 pm, Otavio Louvem <otavio1981.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Não bastasse a falta de educação recorrente, agora vai ameaçar outros > > voluntários? > > > > OTAVIO1981 > > > > Em 25 de janeiro de 2012 11:58, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < > > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Só para os puxas-sacos que eu estou metendo pau de novo. E se forem > > > puxar-saco, tomem cuidado, fica a dica. > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> > > > Date: 25 January 2012 11:51 > > > Subject: Waste of money, Wikipediacentrism. - Brazil > > > To: foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Dear all, > > > Well as you know, Brazil is a priority, but when spending is a waste. > > > We have a volunteer group that operates in Brazil since 2008 in direct > > > contact with the problems of Brazil, know much about the free national > > > culture, know a lot about education in the country, and their > projects, they > > > can tell the reasons why Brazil has poor performance on Wikipedia. > > > Wikimedia Foundation conducted several interviews with the group, I was > > > interviewed three times and had several conversations with several > different > > > employees. Also recently a person was hired to do a search on this, > already > > > operating in Brazil. > > > And yesterday they announced the arrival of two more employees to ask > only > > > that, again. [1] They already have the answer to these interviews, what > > > they are asking again? > > > > > And what I find worse is the fact that there is a prohibitive message > for > > > explanation of other Wikimedia projects. As for the local group that > > > Wikipedia is not central. And there will be an office of WMF, only to > > > activities for Wikipedia. And many Brazilians criticize the model of > the > > > WMF, and that centralization in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is only the tenth > > > seventh most visited site in the country. Need better, yes, but the > > > problem is the community that is not healthy, and that the WMF does not > > > interfere on that. So it's skating, and spending resources > unnecessarily. > > > > > Several staff members say the Wikipedia impact is larger than the other > > > projects. > > > Which has more impact for you? > > > "The Movement Wikimedia projects through education, created free > > > educational resources available in Wikibooks, and classes on > Wikiversity, > > > this could change the lives of thousands of poor children" or > > > "The Movement Wikimedia succeeded in creating an encyclopaedia in > > > Portuguese high quality " > > > > > Unfortunately I live in a country that 38% of teens lives in extreme > > > poverty [2], how they want to create a program just with universities, > to > > > share knowledge if people that never walk inside one university? Or not > > > be able to read the contents of Wikipedia because they were not > properly > > > literate. I'm not talking to literate Brazilians, I'm talking to > create free > > > educational resources, and create classes, and encourage businesses > and organizations > > > to do that change, this is a collaborative work. > > > > > With the money spent to keep three people six days in Brazil from the > U.S.A., > > > we could fund a fellow to start a social work with teachers to create > this > > > material.What is the interest of the WMF on this? "Our priority is > > > Wikipedia" > > > > > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in > > > the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. > > > * > > > I'll keep imagining, and having to push myself very hard to see this > > > world. That will never be reached by Wikipedia alone.Especially in > Brazil. > > > > > If it were to promote Wikipedia as a site, it would be best to hire a > company, > > > not a Foundation, if that way selected, do things as a Foundation. > > > > > Sorry for my English, I'm tired and I didn't review. > > > > > [1] > > >https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Wikip%C3. > .. > > > [2] > > >http://noticias.r7.com/brasil/noticias/adolescentes-sao-mais-pobres-q. > .. > > > > > -- > > > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton > > > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com > > > +55 11 7971-8884 > > > > > -- > > > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton > > > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com > > > +55 11 7971-8884 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WikimediaBR-l mailing list > > > wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org > > >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l > > > > -- > > Abs, > > Otavio > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikimediaBR-l mailing list > > WikimediaB...@lists.wikimedia.orghttps:// > lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaBR-l mailing list > WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l > -- Abs, Otavio
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