Dear All, I support Mandar's and Ganesh's point of view. Old logo looks like wrong spelling - "Vikri"/"Chikri". New logo is correct. Its impossible to comprehend that people will vote for the old logo; specifically after looking at the new one.
Mitul On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Mandar Kulkarni <mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > I completly agree with Ganesh. There are more than 1 Bn people in India and > most of them understand Devnagari either by use of Marathi, Hindi or some > other languages. > > We had raised this point many times and looks like as if the old logo is so > close to somebody's heart (even if it is wrong), it is not been allowed to > change. My concern is that this type of voting was done some weeks back when > the new design of logo was suggested, where is the result of that? > > When it clearly reveals the the old logo is Wrong and a common man reads as > "Vikri" and "Chikri", why not to change. Is it going to cost millions of rs. > to change or there is a wastage of millions dollars in this. Why the people > are resisting so much to change. If your own first name is been drafted > wrongly by someone by giving the reason of "flow of design" will you > accept that? > > Tomorrow, due to some unforeseen things, if we need to change the date or > venue for the wiki-conferecne, will you keep the same header and ask people > to find the new date and new place as it is part of logo? > > I also tried in my office to read the logo. 60% people read that as VIKRI > and 40% read that as CHIKRI. No body read that correctly. The main purpose > of wiki-conferecne is to reach as many as people and get more & more > new editors and new contributors, then if the new people of not > understanding it, what impression they would be putting in there mind? > > I request all the people to think on this sensibly and change to new logo. > > With Regards, > > Mandar V. Kulkarni > > *From:* ganesh gajre <ganeshga...@gmail.com> > *To:* wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com > *Cc:* Pradeep <pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com>; WikiConference India < > wikiconference-in...@lists.wikimedia.org>; Wikipedia India Mailing List < > email@example.com>; Wikipedia Mumbai Mailing List < > wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org>; ramraosa...@gmail.com; Amit > Dhakulkar <dam...@gmail.com>; Rafikh Shaikh <rafikh...@gmail.com>; > Nagarjuna G. <nagar...@gnowledge.org>; sudhanwa....@gmail.com; Mandar > Kulkarni <mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.uk> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2011, 0:26 > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [WikiConference-India 2011] Vote for the > Conference Logo > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:42 PM, <wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > The vote has taken place and this matter is now closed. > > No more replies on this thread, please! > > > When we talk about Wikipedia we have rights to change if it's wrong > because that is the freedom given by FSF community and which carried forward > by Wikipedia Community. > It doesn't matter if we got vote out for new logo, and other says the old > logo is best... I openly like to keep the survey... > > For test, I just run a small survey in my office only 4 people, > > And people read it as "Chikree". > Is there anyone who reads Devnagari properly except those who vote for new > logo? > > If your design creates the problem to read/ Understand it by end user then > what is the use of it. > > And I don't mind to read it as " *विक्री*" conference... because the way > discussion going for Secretarial post, even issues of logo, even > participating debate...commanding one and above, The motto of WIKI it's get > into the Sale of WIKIPEDIA, especial India Community, but definitely don't > want to read it as "*चिक्री"* conference. > > I am sorry, I am too harsh for this but it's the fact. > I would like others to go through it once again and make the changes if > possible. Run a survey wherever you work and get's the feedback I am sure > everyone will say the same thing. > > Hope the readers understand what is the meaning of freedom and right to > act. > > > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:39:39 +0530 > From: ganeshga...@gmail.com > To: pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com > CC: wikiconference-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; > firstname.lastname@example.org; wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [WikiConference-India 2011] Vote for the > Conference Logo > > > I guess, > > We are going to the wrong direction. The current logo creating problem to > understand what it means while reading it. > > I believe on "Simplicity is always beautiful when it can be understand by > all." The new logo is simple but can understand easily. > > Because we are Wikipedians and we read hindi, marathi we feel it's > OK...Logo says "WIKI" but the person who is not familiar to hindi, marathi > wikipedia he reads it as "Vikree" or "Chikree". > > I will suggest to keep new logo. > > This is suggestion and would like if other members strongly think about it. > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > hi, > > I think the decision is pretty clear with a lot more people going for the > old logo. The decision is hence to stick with the current logo. > > Just for the sake of completion: > 1. Stay with the old logo = 10 > 2. Change to new logo = 6 > 3. No clear indication given = 1 (Vishal - although we could include him in > the change to new logo bloc as well as the old logo bloc) > > Let's call this discussion closed! I am happy that several people > participated in the process and hope we all continue to do so! > > warm regards, > Pradeep Mohandas > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-in-mum mailing list > wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum > > > > > -- > Ganesh (Dragger) > Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-in-mum mailing > list wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum > > > > > -- > Ganesh (Dragger) > Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindiaemail@example.com > To unsubscribe / mailing option visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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