Bala, that is great news indeed. 8K utilisations! Magnificient.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Bala Jeyaraman <sodabot...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Ashwin,
> Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry
> barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not
> considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions,
> usage suggestions) for the prizes.
>
> Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are
> some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the
> complete list):
>
> 1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users  are even more
> overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our
> activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We
> realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the
> categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own,
> without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided
> by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover
> rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup.
> Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now.
>
> We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping /
> description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were
> uploaded as part of the after contest efforts.
>
> The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear
> filenames/descriptions 3)rotations 4)categorisaton
>
> And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your
> own wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do
> categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why
> categorising should be done.
>
> 2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for.
> This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part
> of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki
> has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and
> some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they
> became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in
> commons too.
>
> 3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used
> in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis
> there are a total of 11k file usage instances.
>
> 4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all
> uploaders talk pages  (and email if their email facility is enabled)
> thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of.
>
>
> ==Links==
> 1)
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=250&target=Category%3ATamilWiki_Media_Contest
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We
>> kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
>> was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
>> got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
>> There are several reasons for this:
>>
>> 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
>> make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>>
>> 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
>> migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
>> no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>>
>> 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been
>> contemplating on things:
>> How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in
>> the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in
>> terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items?
>> Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so
>> that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware
>> or don't know how to)?
>>
>> Do let me know what you guys think!
>> Regards
>> Noopur
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar <konarak...@live.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk
>>> happened, else I'd have helped.
>>> I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while
>>> keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted.
>>>
>>> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530
>>> From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
>>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and
>>> other events
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view
>>> all events are culprits.
>>>
>>> Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I
>>> shudder to think!
>>>
>>> Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till
>>> it is uploaded with :
>>> * proper description.
>>> * suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.
>>> * proper categorisation in Commons.
>>>
>>> Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should
>>> end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar 
>>> <konarak...@live.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>  The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.
>>>
>>> The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload
>>> of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named,
>>> unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took
>>> in the photothon never get realised.
>>>
>>>
>>> The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should
>>> end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50
>>> good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting
>>> for Godot]]".
>>>
>>>
>>> Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 
>>> you're
>>> talking about something like this, right Ashwin?
>>>
>>> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
>>>
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>>
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