Hi Arjuna, the details of winners will be available in the detailed report. We are contacting them, and a couple of more winners are still to reply.
Thank you for all your support so far :) On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Béria Lima <berial...@gmail.com> wrote: > *It is not a "pure virtual world event", in most countries, it >> had photo-walks, local cultural institute partnerships, sponsors, >> promotion, juries, and yes, prizes among other things. (Beh, clarify here >> please!)* >> > > Well, I can only talk about WMPT experience, and it was so much off line > work. We had like 8 in person meetings to get the list from IGESPAR (our > ASI), we needed to travel several times to meet with sponsors (sometimes > crossing the country), we needed to talk with promotion partners, prize > partners and PR partners (all that also in person). We needed to set up a > place for the jury meeting (and all the logistics involved). We had 2 "Wiki > Takes" events and we needed to set up the prize reception. > > WLM is a wonderful thing to do, but definitely isn't a "pure virtual" > event. > _____ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 6 November 2012 13:53, Theo10011 <de10...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> There is actually very little that is as disappointing as people who >> never did the work, complaining about people who actually did. I don't >> recall any previous organization of WLM from you or the chapter in the last >> year. It is easy to nitpick an incoming batch of young volunteers, doing >> something for the first time, it is harder to actually do something. I >> didn't have the time or the energy to take this up, neither did you, but I >> won't criticize them now over trivial matters on an announcement email. >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala >> <arjunar...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>>> I'm not sure how familiar you are with WLM. But if you look on the >>>> commons page for the winners[1], a large majority of them are redlinks with >>>> next to no information about real names and locations of photographers. I >>>> believe the competition has more to do with the pictures themselves than >>>> the photographers. Some of the winners created their account for the sole >>>> purpose of uploading the pics, some chose their names, some didn't. It is >>>> their right if they choose to not declare their real name and location. >>>> Putting this information on commons without their permission, can be >>>> tantamount to WP:OUTING[2] and against the Wikimedia privacy policy. >>>> >>> >>> I very much am involved with WLM and also know the policies. You seem >>> to have missed some mails on this topic from me. >>> >> >> Ah, I must have forgotten the time you organized WLM in the past. Lucky >> for you, all mails are archived[1]. Why don't you go ahead and find it? I >> only see a single relevant email from you in the last year mentioning the >> IRC meeting time related to WLM and other business. I wasn't talking about >> WLM policy, just general privacy policy, which would require that >> information oversighted on en.wp, and commons, and the offender warned in >> most cases. >> >> >>> >>> BTW, this is just not a virtual world event as there is lot of prize >>> money at stake. I am not advocating that Karthik share the real names >>> without contacting the winners. If my mail was not clear in that aspect, I >>> am sorry. >>> >>> >> Yes, it wasn't clear. You are not just haranguing what might be, a small >> oversight publicly, which is really supportive of these new office bearers. >> >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala < >>>> arjunar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Disappointed that there are no user pages or information on >>>>> background of contributors of winning entries. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Let's try and contain the disappointment, shall we? ;) This was a big >>>> initiative taken by such a young group of volunteers. They deserve to >>>> lauded for their achievement. The information about the individual >>>> photographer is rarely a priority during these initiatives. >>>> >>> Sorry to disagree. As mentioned, this is just not a pure virtual world >>> event. Once we know the winning photographs, there is a curiosity to know >>> the author/photographers of the award winning entries. >>> >> >> Apparently, you seem to be the only one with this burning curiosity. >> Actually to correct you again, it is not a "pure virtual world event", in >> most countries, it had photo-walks, local cultural institute partnerships, >> sponsors, promotion, juries, and yes, prizes among other things. (Beh, >> clarify here please!) As I mentioned before it's a photo contest, not a >> photographer contest. >> >> >>> Also after spending quite a lot of effort and money, there are more >>> expectations on leveraging this for the movement. May be some of these >>> people will become passionate Wikimedians and start initiatives to improve >>> media about India. >>> >> >> Yes, and they are answerable to you? Anyway, I must be missing where your >> criticism fills the gap and inspires them. >> >> >>> Hope the winners will take action to update their pages soon so that >>>>> the community knows bit about them and their passion for >>>>> Photography/monuments and their approach towards the contest and also few >>>>> words about their winning entry. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If they choose to mention those details, sure. They don't have to do >>>> anything, like the majority of winners from other countries. >>>> >>> Agreed. Again there is an opportunity for India to be different while >>> respecting the policies. That is the focus of my message. >>> >> >> It's not. >> >> You actually just seemed petty, this all might have just been an >> oversight on the organizer's part, which you could have mentioned to >> Karthik and others in private, and they would have corrected. Instead, you >> nitpicked on a public list to a group of 20 year old (Karthik I think is >> even younger), for something, let's face it, that you, I and others, were >> too busy or lazy to organize ourselves. >> >> -Theo >> >> P.S. When you reply inline, try and leave a gap so that the quote doesn't >> get truncated with the reply. >> >> [1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Thanks and regards, (User:Karthikndr <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Karthikndr>) *Karthik Nadar.*
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