Gerard,

Do not go off-topic. Do not confuse readers. Please.

Thanks,


On 23 April 2014 22:08, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi,
> I am so in disagreement with you .. If something new has to start and
> Wikidata is new, then it needs more than just a video or a conference call.
> I know, I live and breath it, I still discover new opportunities every day.
> I gave a presentation to professionals who work in data. It took me an hour
> to set up the environment with them and for them so that they could start..
>
> We had a meeting for three hours and we scratched the surface enough to
> make a difference. The fact that we were together ensured good faith and
> enough understanding.
>
> Then again, the approach in the questioning of "Q14" [1] is such that I
> find that people assume that they know what the proposal is and, what it
> aims to achieve. I have seen some of the agenda and if only a fifth of what
> is started pays of it is well worth the investment. I can also
> categorically state that the agenda is being worked on for half a year now
> and preparations have been under way for as long.
>
> Just consider what a challenge it is to bring Wikidata to India in a way
> where it actually makes a difference. It can and it will if only because
> there is so much to that program.
>
>  My initial reaction is one of "assume good faith".. What I know is that
> you do not know what is aimed for and I am sure you did not ask. You did
> not consider how a program can make a difference.. It can when it is has
> many facets, angles and a chance of making a difference here and there.
>
> The question is not can it be a success, but it seems more one of do you
> want it to be a success.
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q14
>
>
>
> On 23 April 2014 17:27, Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hoi Gerard,
>>
>> This is not a discussion about the usefulness of CIS's work. Most of the
>> Indic  Wiki communities till date have only engaged with CIS in good faith.
>>
>> Your comment about WikiData can help at
>>
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q14
>>
>> Ravi
>>
>>
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