Hi. I'm more active on Hindi Wikipedia. My observation is that many people who come from english wiki to local wikis tend to enforce quality too much. Its like forcing diet of a body builder upon a kid. This takes toll on new contributors who do have good intentions and may be groomed. Keeping in view the life-cycle thing, we have to compromise a little on quality till a critical mass is reached and enforce the quality slowly and steadily.
I've been here for last one year and i think hindi wiki is showing a steady growing trend. As far as new tech like tablets, smartphones are concerned, i feel they are helpful as local language typing apps are more easy to operate on tablets etc than on a pc. Regards. Manoj. On Jul 30, 2014 5:49 PM, <wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wikimediaindia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimediaindia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimediaindia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias (Ravishankar) > 2. Re: Declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias (ansuman) > 3. Re: Declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias (Ravishankar) > 4. Re: Declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias (ansuman) > 5. Re: Declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias > (Moksh Juneja) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:09:03 +0530 > From: Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia India Community list > <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Declining contributions across Indian > Wikipedias > Message-ID: > < > caf2qyrajdrwtbrt2sefpzg9rbic50-r-wvm9e9_l5bp60z1...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey, > > I have been noting declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias for the > last few months. > > > http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/telugu-wikipedia-struggles-to-stay-afloat/article6255633.ece > > triggered to write this mail. > > This is my view on what's happening: > > 1. Most of the Indian Wikipedias have crossed 10 years. Many of the active > and first generation contributors are burnt out, taking a leave or have > left for good. If you are not creative, intentional and consistent in your > efforts to replenish and nurture the next generation, you will see a > declining trend. > > 2. Malayalam Wikipedia which once had 30 contributors who made 100+ edits a > month registered only 10 such editors in May 2014. The last time they had > activity this low was during May 2011. At the same time, their Wiki Source > is registering a phenomenal growth. So, some resources could be split > between projects too. This is a good reason to not start too many projects. > Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikisource should be good enough unless you have a > huge community. > > 3. Focus on offline projects like events, celebrations. While they are > good, over doing can stress few active contributors. In my experience, > every time after organizing some offline event, there is too much burn out > and people return after months. > > 4. Things that plague all global Wikipedias - archaic editor, social media > distractions, increasing use of tablets / smart phones. > > Future will be quite challenging :) > > Ravi > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20140729/0e4a82b3/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:09:22 +0530 > From: ansuman <ansum...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia India Community list > <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Declining contributions across Indian > Wikipedias > Message-ID: > < > caguywh8tjmaj8ncmehgfo2raky45sr730ob8qn1xcsvz+ob...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > A large amount goes to experiments...if one third of that amount used > appreciating editors, we would have been a much better scenario. > > On 29-Jul-2014 7:09 pm, "Ravishankar" <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > I have been noting declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias for > the last few months. > > > > > > http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/telugu-wikipedia-struggles-to-stay-afloat/article6255633.ece > > > > triggered to write this mail. > > > > This is my view on what's happening: > > > > 1. Most of the Indian Wikipedias have crossed 10 years. Many of the > active and first generation contributors are burnt out, taking a leave or > have left for good. If you are not creative, intentional and consistent in > your efforts to replenish and nurture the next generation, you will see a > declining trend. > > > > 2. Malayalam Wikipedia which once had 30 contributors who made 100+ edits > a month registered only 10 such editors in May 2014. The last time they had > activity this low was during May 2011. At the same time, their Wiki Source > is registering a phenomenal growth. So, some resources could be split > between projects too. This is a good reason to not start too many projects. > Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikisource should be good enough unless you have a > huge community. > > > > 3. Focus on offline projects like events, celebrations. While they are > good, over doing can stress few active contributors. In my experience, > every time after organizing some offline event, there is too much burn out > and people return after months. > > > > 4. Things that plague all global Wikipedias - archaic editor, social > media distractions, increasing use of tablets / smart phones. > > > > Future will be quite challenging :) > > I'm sure more experiments coming our way to make the future less > challenging.. ;) > > > > > Ravi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20140729/a3bf8e34/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:00:26 +0530 > From: Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia India Community list > <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Declining contributions across Indian > Wikipedias > Message-ID: > <CAF2QyrCNmWcqvmJ9r5bNXx09c-m6vj+D6DfVQS=aRMBma4=_ > z...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ansuman, > > Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :) > > Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really > manage things themselves. > > If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the > projects. > > Ravi > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20140729/663aee95/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:52:38 +0530 > From: ansuman <ansum...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia India Community list > <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Declining contributions across Indian > Wikipedias > Message-ID: > < > caguywh8rxod9jspu6ti0myd+jk_itvvhr5o3hz7dhiyegkp...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... > And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) > On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ansuman, > > > > Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :) > > > > Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really > > manage things themselves. > > > > If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the > > projects. > > > > Ravi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20140729/75954da8/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:00:25 +0530 > From: Moksh Juneja <mo...@wikimedia.in> > To: Wikimedia India Community list > <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Declining contributions across Indian > Wikipedias > Message-ID: > <CAKpxiKtoH6JSrtAT4yU-WovqR= > gylugn15auypahbgjjsfd...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In my suggestion/ recommendation we need to create vertical projects within > wiki-projects. It could be Indian space Environment, local destinations in > your city, etc. With this we should tap into colleges, schools and the > senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors. > > I am saying this in my personal capacity as a contributor to Wikipedia. > > -- > Moksh Juneja > Wikimedia India > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:52 PM, ansuman <ansum...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... > > And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) > > On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Ansuman, > >> > >> Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :) > >> > >> Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really > >> manage things themselves. > >> > >> If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the > >> projects. > >> > >> Ravi > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20140730/13261590/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > End of Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 775, Issue 1 > ************************************************ >
_______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
